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College Football Final Four

Hahahahaha fuck you UF, that is all.
 
UF has put up 2 TDs on Bama's defense, which is 2 more than I thought they would.
 
timthedeac said:
Last night probably cost Colorado the rose bowl since they were at 8 and USC at 11. Don't really like seeing the CCG end up hurting a team. Except florida. Have no problem with a big loss to Bama costing them the Sugar Bowl.
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I have no problem with Southern Cal going to the Rose Bowl over Colorado because Southern Cal beat them earlier in the season. I understand that your trying to make the point that a team playing in a CCG shouldn't be penalized if they lose. However, if Colorado had beaten Southern Cal earlier in the season and last nights loss effected their Bowl Game, especially one of "The New Years Six", then I would understand. (Im only referring to Non-Playoff Bowl Games, obviously "The Top 4" are effected by CCG)
 
wsc8521s said:
IMO Washington has a way better chance against Alabama than Wisconsin or Penn St.

Still not much of one, but significantly better
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As a Bama fan (went to Grad School there), I fear Washington the most. I've watched them 5-6 times this season, and IMO they are the most physical team in the country behind Bama. They have a dominant Front 7 on D, and a solid O-Line that can control the game with their rushing attack. I haven't seen Stanford get beat up physically that bad on both sides of the ball in years.

The question is whether they can run the ball against Bama just enough to setup the pass and play-action. However, their biggest "weapon" is their HC, Chris Peterson. IMO, besides Saban and Urban, I don't think there is a better HC in the country, and is one of the best coaches building a gameplan when given enough time. Also, he is one of the best HC's when it comes to both in-game play calling and making in game adjustments.
 
BamaDeac said:
As a Bama fan (went to Grad School there), I fear Washington the most. I've watched them 5-6 times this season, and IMO they are the most physical team in the country behind Bama. They have a dominant Front 7 on D, and a solid O-Line that can control the game with their rushing attack. I haven't seen Stanford get beat up physically that bad on both sides of the ball in years.

The question is whether they can run the ball against Bama just enough to setup the pass and play-action. However, their biggest "weapon" is their HC, Chris Peterson. IMO, besides Saban and Urban, I don't think there is a better HC in the country, and is one of the best coaches building a gameplan when given enough time. Also, he is one of the best HC's when it comes to both in-game play calling and making in game adjustments.
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Washington played 7 games against teams with a losing record. They have the 138th ranked schedule in the country. I'm not sure what you can expect from Washington.
 
Gator stew on the menu again this week!
 
Although a team with a great QB could make it interesting
 
DeacMan said:
Washington played 7 games against teams with a losing record. They have the 138th ranked schedule in the country. I'm not sure what you can expect from Washington.
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Anyone can "nitpick" just about anyone's schedule besides Bama (Played 8 games against teams that were ranked when the game was played, and WKU who just won CUSA). OSU played 6 teams with a record of .500 or below. Clemson has played 6 teams with a record of .500 or below, and only 2 of those teams that were ranked when the game was played.


Also, I really really hate using stats for debates in football because one can manipulate them to form the argument they want. IMO, the "Eye Test" shows more than stats. Are stats useful in football? At times they can be, but they don't fully explain what happened in the game like they do in Baseball. For example, if one only looked at only the stats of the Penn St win over OSU, one would have thought OSU won the game.

Total Yards: 413 vs 276
Time of Possession: 38min vs 22min
3rd Downs 9/22 vs 2/13
TOs: 0 vs 1

However, Penn St made 2 huge plays on special teams, and won the game. If anyone believes Penn St didn't deserve to win that game, then I guess you forgot that special teams makes up 1/3 of the game.

As for Washington, in their "Big Game's" against other ranked teams this season:
#7 Stanford 44-6
at #17 Utah 31-24
#20 USC 13-20 LOSS
at #23 WSU 44-17
#8 Colorado 41-10

Washington is 4-1 against ranked teams, and 3 of those wins were complete domination. Also, winning in Utah is no small feat, and is one of the most underrated venues in CFB. Maybe I should word it this way, I am more afraid of Chris Peterson than any other team/coach in the country. Washington might not seem "scary" to many people, but if your not afraid of Chris Peterson, then you are a fool. As I stated before, I believe he is one of the best coaches coming up with a gameplan, calling a game, and making in game adjustments. A lot of coaches are great at one or two of the latter, but only a handful are good at all three.
 
buckets said:
Is this Sabans best Bama team?
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Best or most talented??

Ironically, most Bama fans would say the 2010 was the most talented, but was 10-3 which is his "worst" team based on record, assuming you don't count his first season in 2007. Last season, Saban repeatedly stated multiple times starting around November that the 2015 was his "Best Team".

The book has not fully been written about the 2016 team, and you wont find many Bama Fans discussing where this team ranks until the season is over. However, a thread did pop up around this November discussing the best Bama defense since 1992. A lot of people are going back and forth between the 2011 vs 1992 as the best defense in the modern era*. The other defense's that are in the discussion are the 2009, 2012, 2015.

*However, most fans, including a lot that have been watching Bama Football for 50-60 years, are saying the 2016 is probably the best ever because (1) it has fully adapted to the Spread Offense and has shut them down (2) its d-line are unbelievable in their ability to both stop the run and get pressure on the QB with just 3 or 4 lineman (3) secondary can play both man and zone (before DBs struggled a lot with 1 on 1 coverage with no safety help) (4)its ability to not only create turnovers but score points.

Also, if you have not followed Bama very closely, then most people don't realize that Saban had changed his defensive philosophy while at Alabama. Once the Spread Offense became the main type of offense within the SEC he started recruiting "versatile" lineman that could play on all 3 downs rather than having both a run and pass specialist. Also, he started recruiting DBs that can play both safety and corner. And, he brought in LBs that could rush the QB or line up as a DE for run support. As a result, they have the ability to run a 4-2-5/3-3-5, or 4-1-6/3-2-6. Before Saban changed, he was forced to substitute to counter either the offensive gameplan or player matchups. In other words, he had to react to what the offense was doing. Now Saban can dictate what he wants to do with his defense rather than be forced to react to what the offense is doing.

If you are interested in there message boards, then go to tidefans.com it is the equivalent of this message board for WFU fans. The people on their are very nice, and are the most are the knowledgeable, as well as, rational football community that I have ever come across. Any other Bama Boards would be the equivalent to WFU's Scout message board.
 
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BamaDeac said:
Anyone can "nitpick" just about anyone's schedule besides Bama (Played 8 games against teams that were ranked when the game was played, and WKU who just won CUSA). OSU played 6 teams with a record of .500 or below. Clemson has played 6 teams with a record of .500 or below, and only 2 of those teams that were ranked when the game was played.


Also, I really really hate using stats for debates in football because one can manipulate them to form the argument they want. IMO, the "Eye Test" shows more than stats. Are stats useful in football? At times they can be, but they don't fully explain what happened in the game like they do in Baseball. For example, if one only looked at only the stats of the Penn St win over OSU, one would have thought OSU won the game.

Total Yards: 413 vs 276
Time of Possession: 38min vs 22min
3rd Downs 9/22 vs 2/13
TOs: 0 vs 1

However, Penn St made 2 huge plays on special teams, and won the game. If anyone believes Penn St didn't deserve to win that game, then I guess you forgot that special teams makes up 1/3 of the game.

As for Washington, in their "Big Game's" against other ranked teams this season:
#7 Stanford 44-6
at #17 Utah 31-24
#20 USC 13-20 LOSS
at #23 WSU 44-17
#8 Colorado 41-10

Washington is 4-1 against ranked teams, and 3 of those wins were complete domination. Also, winning in Utah is no small feat, and is one of the most underrated venues in CFB. Maybe I should word it this way, I am more afraid of Chris Peterson than any other team/coach in the country. Washington might not seem "scary" to many people, but if your not afraid of Chris Peterson, then you are a fool. As I stated before, I believe he is one of the best coaches coming up with a gameplan, calling a game, and making in game adjustments. A lot of coaches are great at one or two of the latter, but only a handful are good at all three.
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Washington is a mortal lock to be in the playoff. I'm merely noting the computers were obviously not impressed with the overall schedule and that this can call how they "look" into question. No argument on Peterson either. I imagine he'll be getting calls from even bigger programs soon.
 
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