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What members have we lost?
Obviously none yet, but it's obvious FSU and Clemson are not staying.
And UNC won't be far behind.
The difference in $ is just too much.
What members have we lost?
No one was going to stay if they had better options. The question is what is the cost. That’s the point of the GOR.Obviously none yet, but it's obvious FSU and Clemson are not staying.
And UNC won't be far behind.
The difference in $ is just too much.
I dunno but it'd be fun to seeHow can you win an antitrust lawsuit when there are several options for schools to go to? The Big Ten and SEC are inherently competitive with one another, let alone all the other conferences.
Still not convinced that UNC is leaving. And I’m also not convinced that they would even be allowed to leave by the state.Obviously none yet, but it's obvious FSU and Clemson are not staying.
And UNC won't be far behind.
The difference in $ is just too much.
Still not convinced that UNC is leaving. And I’m also not convinced that they would even be allowed to leave by the state.
Surely it will not cost $15-20M annually to contribute legally to the re-elections funds of the necessary state politicians in order to get the legislation changed so that UNC is no longer tethered to NCSUFollow the money. When you're looking at a 15-20M annual difference they would be stupid to not leave.
Would UNC get a better deal than Oregon and Washington?
Not sure about that. Washington brings a massive market.Almost certainly.
Not sure about that. Washington brings a massive market.
SEC/Big Ten. The new G League. Five years nobody watches. It's all gonna crash and burn. When you steal something others helped you build karma is coming.
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unc’s relationship to money is more importantThere are no other situations like the Big 4. Maybe Stanford, cal, and UCLA is the closest. The relationship between UNC and the other three (Wake is obviously the least important) creates a very difficult situation for UNC to bolt in my opinion. UNC’s relationship with UVA is also an interesting factor in all of this. I never sympathize with UNC but damn they are in a very complicated spot here. And they know it.
A lot of UNC fans live closer to Duke, State, Wake, UVa, VT, and Clemson than UNC. I doubt there are many UNC fans in Iowa City, East Lansing, Bloomington, Eugene, and West Lafayette.There are no other situations like the Big 4. Maybe Stanford, cal, and UCLA is the closest. The relationship between UNC and the other three (Wake is obviously the least important) creates a very difficult situation for UNC to bolt in my opinion. UNC’s relationship with UVA is also an interesting factor in all of this. I never sympathize with UNC but damn they are in a very complicated spot here. And they know it.
But they'll win their hearts and minds when they've spread the Carolina Way™ across the Midwest /sA lot of UNC fans live closer to Duke, State, Wake, UVa, VT, and Clemson than UNC. I doubt there are many UNC fans in Iowa City, East Lansing, Bloomington, Eugene, and West Lafayette.
I guess more Walmarts will carry UNC merch.But they'll win their hearts and minds when they've spread the Carolina Way™ across the Midwest /s
Are you assuming we don't have an iron clad GOR because a couple of people have sued to challenge it?I'm at the point where nothing would surprise me. We thought we had an iron clad GOR to keep the conference together, but now we are losing members.
I'd be stunned if ESPN doesn't have an exit here.
Whatever remains will be the ACC in name only.
Imagine being in school in the late 90s and someone tells you that the ACC has more than 9 members and none of them are FSU, Clemson or UNC?