wakelaw13
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I never said it did, obviously, because it does the opposite.Seems like a political goal. How does bombing civilians help achieve that goal?
I never said it did, obviously, because it does the opposite.Seems like a political goal. How does bombing civilians help achieve that goal?
I never said it did, obviously, because it does the opposite.
I think this is totally fair. As for the tipping point, I continue to believe that Israel can wage war without war crimes. That’s the line I would draw. And I am discouraged by much of what I’ve seen, especially as it relates to aid workers’ access to the region.to me,
1. in actual real life I have a hard time believing anyone with Israel/IDF will ever be tried for war crimes
2. the way they are currently carrying out war against Hamas has resulted in 30k deaths, half of which are children -- the collateral damage it too high for me to think it is okay to continue -- this doesn't even begin to account for injuries, destroyed homes, displacement of people, and so on
3. My intuition is that Israel is using this moment to do more than just pursue Hamas -- I think the leadership has designs on taking over all of Palestine as Israeli land
the controversy is in the method, which is scorched earth
I honestly have not heard anything about Israel speaking to a strategy that does not involve displacing millions of people and killing thousands -- have you?
what is the tipping point in deaths that would change your support for letting Israel pursue Hamas and dealing with the consequences later (via international court or whatever)?
This is where we leave each other, because all evidence shows otherwise. And not just the response to October, but to the way they’ve treated Palestinians for decades.I continue to believe that Israel can wage war without war crimes.
I think this is totally fair. As for the tipping point, I continue to believe that Israel can wage war without war crimes. That’s the line I would draw. And I am discouraged by much of what I’ve seen, especially as it relates to aid workers’ access to the region.
No but he was in the Delta Farce crew back near the beginning of this thread.Well, you don’t and it shows.
Were you ever in debate club?
The controversy is >10000 dead children.It means Hamas, a terrorist organization with the stated goal of committing genocide, is not in power any longer.
No but he was in the Delta Farce crew back near the beginning of this thread.
Why does Israel support Hamas?It means Hamas, a terrorist organization with the stated goal of committing genocide, is not in power any longer.
Ah yes, the zero state solutionIf Palestinians and Israelis can’t coexist in the space then neither of them should be there.
worked for king solomonAh yes, the zero state solution
There's precedent for that scenario.
Has anyone suggest taking the Raytheon executives to the Middle East to demonstrate a new missile? Then while there their convoy is ambushed and they are wounded by a missile used by the attackers—one of the company's own. They are then captured and imprisoned in a cave by a terrorist group but working together they are able to escape. When they return home after experiencing first hand the destruction they announce that the company will cease manufacturing weapons.