June 6, 1944

[ImTheCaptain]

so it's something that americans probably have a better understanding of, on average

 

[ImTheCaptain]

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really takes the edge off when you upload via tapatalk

 

[DeaconCav06]

My grandmother was engaged to a young guy that was killed in WWII. She later dated his brother and were supposed to be married but he was also killed in combat.

As a very religious Catholic daughter of Irish immigrants she thought that it was a sign from God that she was supposed to be alone. For a long time she refused to ever go out socially and met my grandfather at work.

 

[AttilatheHoo]

could prolly spend an entire yr discussing WW2.

my grandpa was training on the west coast when the atomic bomb was dropped on Japan.

 

[Biff Tannen]

so it's something that americans probably have a better understanding of, on average

You mean the average American who can't find France on a map?

 

[ImTheCaptain]

well, i was just poking vlad with that comment but sure, you don't need to know where france is to know what happened at pearl harbor

also, i'd take the bet that, on average, us citizens know where france is on a map

 

[ThinkingWithMyDeac]

Have you ever looked at the surveys conducted, too much faith in dumb as shit Americans.

 

[ImTheCaptain]

yeah, some americans are idiots, definitely. but there are dumb people everywhere on the planet.

 

[buckets]

Is vad trying to imply that America is not #1?

 

[jhmd2000]

You mean the average American who can't find France on a map?

The average American's grandparents put France back on the map.

 

[AttilatheHoo]

BTW - after the end of the Cold War, Russian historians worked to piece together a lot of stuff that had been hidden, etc ... the result was a bunch of new scholarship, including a documentary series called "Soviet Storm: WW2 in the East". The entire thing is up in an English version on YouTube. If you're interested in WW2, it's definitely an interesting watch - especially from a Russian viewpoint.

Here's the episode on the the Ryzhev "Meatgrinder" for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Su67gOzFPQM

interesting vid. how is Stalin viewed by Russian history?

 

[bojanglefunk]

This is an interesting video showing just how huge the scale of loss was in WWII, particularly when compared to wars today:

http://www.vox.com/2015/6/8/8746611/world-war-ii-deaths

The numbers are just staggering. When he gets to the description of Stalingrad and the rest of the eastern front it is staggering.

While you watch, keep in mind the video only includes deaths, not other casualties.

16% of Poles died.