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Official '16-17 NBA Thread: not with a bang but a whimper

@BaxterHolmes
Source familiar w/ Kings’ thinking: "Vivek thinks Buddy [Hield] has Steph Curry potential.” Am told that fixation was a key driver in deal.
 
RChildress107 said:
Do the sixers have more than one pick? This draft's depth actually helps the Nuggets/Bucks since they are more likely to pick up a potential star on the low end of the lottery.
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They get the Lakers pick if it's not top3 & whichever is better between their pick and SAC's pick.
 
RChildress107 said:
Do the sixers have more than one pick? This draft's depth actually helps the Nuggets/Bucks since they are more likely to pick up a potential star on the low end of the lottery.
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Yeah , they have equity for about 1.6 picks. Lakers pick is top 3 protected so they have 50/50 shot at that pick even if lakers finish 2nd worst. And then the other pick they get the better of their own or kings so lots of ping pong balls for fultz or lonzo
 
I mean, I loved Hield in college, but I just don't see it.
 
palmab03 said:
Sixers got too many good picks and too much cap room. Gotta go with the Sixers.
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Which at some point has to turn into quality players at all 5 positions. Sixers are starting to feel like the guy who picks up 15 cards in gin rummy trying to run up a massive score and then gets stuck with all those cards when someone else goes out.

Feels like the process is riding on a lot of luck at the moment. We will see.
 
RChildress107 said:
Middleton and Parker aren't nothing. Also hard to put Embiid above the Joker considering that Jokic is a year younger, has played better than Embiid this year and has two working legs.
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Defense matters, re Embiid v Jokic. One is very good defensively and the other is pretty bad
 
deac29 said:
Defense matters, re Embiid v Jokic. One is very good defensively and the other is pretty bad
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Hard to play defense in street clothes.

It's gonna suck when the Lakers get Ball and then sneak into the playoffs next year and the Sixers end up with two mid teens draft picks in a shitty draft.
 
Fuck Your Couch said:
@BaxterHolmes
Source familiar w/ Kings’ thinking: "Vivek thinks Buddy [Hield] has Steph Curry potential.” Am told that fixation was a key driver in deal.
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re: Stauskas
 
It's awesome because the approach used by Childress and others to uncertainty is the exact reason Philly was able to reach this position....

What if Embiid never gets healthy
What is Dario never comes over
What if the Lakers pick doesn't convey and lakers Sign a Max player and get good
 
RChildress107 said:
Which at some point has to turn into quality players at all 5 positions. Sixers are starting to feel like the guy who picks up 15 cards in gin rummy trying to run up a massive score and then gets stuck with all those cards when someone else goes out.

Feels like the process is riding on a lot of luck at the moment. We will see.
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RChildress107 said:
Hard to play defense in street clothes.

It's gonna suck when the Lakers get Ball and then sneak into the playoffs next year and the Sixers end up with two mid teens draft picks in a shitty draft.
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Aren't you one of the leading #math proponents in CBB threads?

Obviously there are no guarantees. You just want to give yourself the best statistical chance for success. The /odds/ are the Lakers pick conveys this year in a great draft. You'd also expect the Kings pick in two seasons is elite. Certainly it's possible that those things aren't true/don't happen, but all you can do is stack the deck to the best of your ability.
 
RChildress107 said:
Which at some point has to turn into quality players at all 5 positions. Sixers are starting to feel like the guy who picks up 15 cards in gin rummy trying to run up a massive score and then gets stuck with all those cards when someone else goes out.

Feels like the process is riding on a lot of luck at the moment. We will see.
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Well not really, because they have no bad contracts. They can pick up 2-3 "quality guys" rather easily. The whole key to the entire NBA is getting good players while they're till on their rookie deal, then maxing out to the cap, then going over the cap by resigning your rookies to larger deals. The fact that steph is on a $11 mil/yr deal is the only reason they could get Durant. And the fact that Klay and Harrison Barnes were on rookie deals is how they were able to get Igulodala/Bogut/Livingston
 
Eagles_Legendz said:
Aren't you one of the leading #math proponents in CBB threads?

Obviously there are no guarantees. You just want to give yourself the best statistical chance for success. The /odds/ are the Lakers pick conveys this year in a great draft. You'd also expect the Kings pick in two seasons is elite. Certainly it's possible that those things aren't true/don't happen, but all you can do is stack the deck to the best of your ability.
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That's all true. I'd still feel better if I was a bucks fan. Bird in hand is better than two in the bush so to speak. I'm a huge #math proponent but I also realize that at a certain point odds collapse down into a binary result. So far more of those results have turned up positive for the Bucks than the Sixers.
 
palmab03 said:
Well not really, because they have no bad contracts. They can pick up 2-3 "quality guys" rather easily. The whole key to the entire NBA is getting good players while they're till on their rookie deal, then maxing out to the cap, then going over the cap by resigning your rookies to larger deals. The fact that steph is on a $11 mil/yr deal is the only reason they could get Durant. And the fact that Klay and Harrison Barnes were on rookie deals is how they were able to get Igulodala/Bogut/Livingston
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You do realize that players blooming as late as Steph are pretty rare right? The key to the NBA is to get a top 5 player and a couple of Top 25-30 players. That's just to get in the conversation. Then it comes down to piecing together a decent bench, building chemistry and getting lucky on the injury front.

Sixers picked the right plan given their situation, just not sure on their execution as of yet.
 
Official '16-17 NBA Thread: the new orleans pelicousins

RChildress107 said:
You do realize that players blooming as late as Steph are pretty rare right? The key to the NBA is to get a top 5 player and a couple of Top 25-30 players. That's just to get in the conversation. Then it comes down to piecing together a decent bench, building chemistry and getting lucky on the injury front.

Sixers picked the right plan given their situation, just not sure on their execution as of yet.
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It's not about steph blooming late, it's just having a guy who is underpaid on your roster . The only way that happens is if it's 1) a rookie or 2) a lebron type who is worth more than his max salary 3) a rare case like
Steph


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palmab03 said:
It's not about steph blooming late, it's just having a guy who is underpaid on your roster . The only way that happens is if it's 1) a rookie or 2) a lebron type who is worth more than his max salary 3) a rare case like
Steph


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Agreed, Steph just seemed like a weird example.
 
palmab03 said:
It's not about steph blooming late, it's just having a guy who is underpaid on your roster . The only way that happens is if it's 1) a rookie or 2) a lebron type who is worth more than his max salary 3) a rare case like
Steph
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Or you identify a market failure, like the undervaluation of Ish Smith.
 
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