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State of the Bz - Midseason Report

#BuzzIn or #BuzzOut?

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Shaka doesn't fit the Wellman mold. He's a players coach, and Wellman doesn't want that...we might get some more players who don't represent MSD well, or whatever bullshit excuse Ron is shoveling this week.
 
I wish folks could separate their emotions and excitement about winning a couple games, and the obvious potential of some of our younger players, from the equally obvious lack of leadership and sophisticated coaching. It's great that these young players are trying so hard and sticking together. But for chrissakes, watch the whole game and watch the overall lack of fundamentals and understanding....it's sometimes appalling. Watch how hard it is for our offense to actually work. watch how many defensive errors we have, even from the experienced players. Take nothing away from courageous perfomances by the younger guys and CJ and Travis. But are they clinically "good" performances? Could the team survive without a career high from CJ? Not really imo. We aren't good enough as a team. The way we play on an every game basis is the key to being successful. It almost always feels like we have won some of these games in spite of ourselves, not because of ourselves. What we've done the last couple games won't last unless we play alot better when it counts in tougher games. We've had the chance to show we got it against these weaker teams, but I can't see we have got it yet....and I don't feel we've ever really seen it from Bz coached teams at Wake. Blame it on the recruits or players if you want but good teams play good ball based on how they're coached.
 
Fusion, don't talk about fundamentals. Hell, we just passed BC and are no longer dead last in the conference in FG% D. And we're now only getting barely outrebounded - but we don't need any more bigs.
 
thedeacfan said:
That's just depressing. You're talking about the lost decade for Wake basketball.

It's inconceivable that 3 seasons of winning and progressively improving NCAAT performance justifies firing the coach (Dino); but 3 years of unprecented losing justifies giving the coach (Buzz) a fourth year? In what universe could this scenario possibly be considered logical? It is certainly not logical in this universe. In fact, it is incomprehensible. Nothing Jeff [Redacted] has done until now or could do before the end of the season justifies letting him waste another year.

BuzzOUT! till he's gone...
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Yes, I'm talking about such a lost decade. Unless you fire Premier Wellman, give me a reason to believe otherwise.
 
Not a Bz fan by any means but at this point I'd like to see what happens the rest of the season before I cast judgment.
 
Remember this? This is what I want to see again but after the last game of the season. Buzzledick does NOT get us there. Damn that looks good below, don't it? Who gets us back here?


2009 NCAA Men's Basketball Rankings - Week 11 (Jan. 19)

Year:Week:

AP Top 25
RK TEAM RECORD PTS
1 Wake Forest (68) 16-0 1,793
2 Duke (4) 16-1 1,721
3 Connecticut 16-1 1,590
4 Pittsburgh 16-1 1,569
5 North Carolina 16-2 1,510
6 Oklahoma 17-1 1,498
7 Michigan State 15-2 1,394
8 Syracuse 17-2 1,146
9 Louisville 13-3 1,090
10 Clemson 16-1 1,043
11 Marquette 16-2 1,003
12 Georgetown 12-4 979
13 UCLA 14-3 897
14 Texas 13-4 858
15 Xavier 15-2 848
16 Butler 16-1 726
17 Arizona State 15-3 671
18 Purdue 14-4 553
19 Notre Dame 12-5 469
20 Villanova 14-3 353
21 Minnesota 16-2 298
22 Memphis 14-3 208
23 Gonzaga 12-4 201
24 Florida 16-2 175
25 Illinois 15-3 159


USA Today Coaches Poll
RK TEAM RECORD PTS
1 Wake Forest (25) 16-0 769
2 Duke (6) 16-1 747
3 Connecticut 16-1 688
4 Pittsburgh 16-1 679
5 Oklahoma 17-1 649
6 North Carolina 16-2 643
7 Michigan State 15-2 566
8 Syracuse 17-2 520
9 Clemson 16-1 472
10 Marquette 16-2 469
11 UCLA 14-3 443
12 Louisville 13-3 377
13 Xavier 15-2 360
14 Georgetown 12-4 349
15 Texas 13-4 344
16 Arizona State 15-3 337
17 Butler 16-1 332
18 Purdue 14-4 193
19 Notre Dame 12-5 180
20 Minnesota 16-2 154
21 Villanova 14-3 152
22 Saint Mary's 17-1 134
23 Baylor 14-3 82
24 Illinois 15-3 72
24 Memphis 14-3 72
 
Still Bdz Out as I'm not judging him based off of this year and the past ones. I'm judging his past 2.5 years compared to the previous ones. He dug this hole so I'm not going to applaud him every time he gets closer to where Wake started before he was hired.
 
Only 4 years ago.
 
DeacsNDayton said:
Remember this? This is what I want to see again but after the last game of the season. Buzzledick does NOT get us there. Damn that looks good below, don't it? Who gets us back here?


2009 NCAA Men's Basketball Rankings - Week 11 (Jan. 19)

Year:Week:

AP Top 25
RK TEAM RECORD PTS
1 Wake Forest (68) 16-0 1,793
2 Duke (4) 16-1 1,721
3 Connecticut 16-1 1,590
4 Pittsburgh 16-1 1,569
5 North Carolina 16-2 1,510
6 Oklahoma 17-1 1,498
7 Michigan State 15-2 1,394
8 Syracuse 17-2 1,146
9 Louisville 13-3 1,090
10 Clemson 16-1 1,043
11 Marquette 16-2 1,003
12 Georgetown 12-4 979
13 UCLA 14-3 897
14 Texas 13-4 858
15 Xavier 15-2 848
16 Butler 16-1 726
17 Arizona State 15-3 671
18 Purdue 14-4 553
19 Notre Dame 12-5 469
20 Villanova 14-3 353
21 Minnesota 16-2 298
22 Memphis 14-3 208
23 Gonzaga 12-4 201
24 Florida 16-2 175
25 Illinois 15-3 159


USA Today Coaches Poll
RK TEAM RECORD PTS
1 Wake Forest (25) 16-0 769
2 Duke (6) 16-1 747
3 Connecticut 16-1 688
4 Pittsburgh 16-1 679
5 Oklahoma 17-1 649
6 North Carolina 16-2 643
7 Michigan State 15-2 566
8 Syracuse 17-2 520
9 Clemson 16-1 472
10 Marquette 16-2 469
11 UCLA 14-3 443
12 Louisville 13-3 377
13 Xavier 15-2 360
14 Georgetown 12-4 349
15 Texas 13-4 344
16 Arizona State 15-3 337
17 Butler 16-1 332
18 Purdue 14-4 193
19 Notre Dame 12-5 180
20 Minnesota 16-2 154
21 Villanova 14-3 152
22 Saint Mary's 17-1 134
23 Baylor 14-3 82
24 Illinois 15-3 72
24 Memphis 14-3 72
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But we had "thugs" on the team back then.....
 
Buzz-in, Buzz-out, what's the difference? This board's energy is great. It's target selection sucks; Buzz didn't hire himself.

I don't understand the reluctance to go after Wellman, the one who perpetrated this atrocity.

Is it somehow connected to what, I think, is your misguided devotion to Grobe, or does it have more to do with the coaches of non-revenue sports, about whom I am completely unfamiliar?
 
bluefish said:
Buzz-in, Buzz-out, what's the difference? This board's energy is great. It's target selection sucks; Buzz didn't hire himself.

I don't understand the reluctance to go after Wellman, the one who perpetrated this atrocity.

Is it somehow connected to what, I think, is your misguided devotion to Grobe, or does it have more to do with the coaches of non-revenue sports, about whom I am completely unfamiliar?
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Where do you get the idea that Wellman isn't a target?
 
Just from reading the threads, dude. It seems to me that the majority of posters on this board would be delighted if Wellman fired Buzz and hired a new coach.
 
Crazy that we beat Baylor (neutral), @BYU, North Carolina, & @Clemson, but people were still voting for Duke.
 
Bz wil lead us to the Final Four when they finally let eighth graders declare for the NBA and all college basketball has left is players who were scrubs in seventh grade and walk ons.
 
bluefish said:
Just from reading the threads, dude. It seems to me that the majority of posters on this board would be delighted if Wellman fired Buzz and hired a new coach.
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Plenty of people are wary of Wellman hiring another coach. Still Wellman and new coach hired by a committee is better than what we have now. You need to read more.

Do a search and read threads with Wellman in the title. He has little support.
 
Of the 58 Buzzin voters, 18 have ZERO posts, another 5-6 look to have 5-20 posts, and there are a few recognizable parodies as well (OldGoldandGrobe, etc). Either Moonz is busy logging in/out or the AD is working overtime now that we have a few wins over crap teams.

Yes votes with Zero posts:
deacfromnc
deacon85
deaconswin
GoDeacs08
guy
mcarr
Meisterburger
oldgold65
oldschoolrules
ronmexico
SaffaDeac
wfmoll
Wheredeac
AnonymousDeac225
baywooddeac
AppDeac
cajunking
cashat1
 
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These are people that were too proud to register, but secretly lurked without signing in. Now, they don't have that option and are forced to mingle with us cretins.
 
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