BigDeacEnergy
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Idk this season may have just killed my passion for Wake basketball. I’d rather be DFL than have a great shot at the tournament then piss all down our leg again.
The best starting lineup of Forbes career in his words
I have a tough time blaming Forbes for a problem that has plagued multiple Wake sports over multiple coaches.
A Wake team with everything to gain is getting beat up by a team with nothing to lose is typical late Feb/March for hoops and late Oct/Nov in football.
But just like football a major problem is depth. Bball has less of an excuse for that.I have a tough time blaming Forbes for a problem that has plagued multiple Wake sports over multiple coaches.
A Wake team with everything to gain is getting beat up by a team with nothing to lose is typical late Feb/March for hoops and late Oct/Nov in football.
I mean.... one could say Alondes, Appleby, Laravia, Sallis, and Efton have all gotten better under Forbes.......
But that's why we hired him - to be different, to pull us out of that institutional mire.I have a tough time blaming Forbes for a problem that has plagued multiple Wake sports over multiple coaches.
A Wake team with everything to gain is getting beat up by a team with nothing to lose is typical late Feb/March for hoops and late Oct/Nov in football.
We're not, but maybe we should. Meet to discuss?We're not going to terminate the fucking program, you absolute tool.
This a great point. Forbes can credibly tell kids that he will unlock their talent and elevate their game. They can go from buried on the bench to a real shot at individual post-season honors. It isn't a guarantee as he hasn't hit on every transfer, but certainly enough to make a very convincing case. Conversely, an opposing coach can argue that you may achieve some individual success at Wake but you have no chance of the limelight of NCAA tournament play. Sure, that's predicting the future but a coach could certainly point to the recent past with Forbes to make a very credible case.I can actually see our portal success now being a crutch. "That coach had 2 ACC POYs and Sallis and didn't make the tournament - you don't want to play for that loser of a program." This was the year it had to happen. What a fuck up.
Lack of player development is a good point that isn’t brought up enough.
Every time these teams make us feel like fools for following the NET and CFP rankings and rooting for other teams to boost our metrics and such. So much wasted energy and time.This is fair. And we all waste a lot of time watching it happen over and over and over.
There's no problem with a 7 man rotation in college basketball. It's certainly not a problem if that 7th man changes based on how they're doing in practice.Yeah this is by far the most interesting criticism of Forbes to me. I mean, he won 30 games at ETSU, I don't believe x's and o's dictate road losses but not home wins and I'm certain the man knows basketball and can build a winning program. He's responsible for the roster but the Monsanto disaster, the Klintman fiasco, the Ituka injury, the Cam injury... I mean goddamn we really are cursed and I'm sure Forbes is salty about how the year played out personnel-wise.
But there's still the roster management just from this year that is definitely eyebrow-raising. For a hot second we were all-in on Keller, and that was after there was a falling out with Marsh since he had been starting. Marion hits a 3 and gets 8 boards against UGA and he seems legit. Then gets shelved until this week basically which has also been disastrous. Marsh reclaims his spot somehow off like 1 good and 1 mediocre outing, and Keller disappears again.
Seems like such a clearly binary system of playable/unplayable but the flipping back and forth during the season is hard to make sense of. I get the argument of "the coaches see them in practice every day, the fans don't" or whatever. I also realize that when you're pushing top 20 Kenpom and you're in the bracket per Lunardi despite all the challenges it's tough to give minutes to developing players and risk the tenuous hold you had on a bid.
So obviously at this point it's hindsight. But if it was just going to be an NIT year anyway it's hard to argue some of the flip-flop bench guys couldn't have improved with consistent game minutes.