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The Killing - new show on AMC

Lost in the terrible twist ending is the fact that Richmond as the killer was almost as stupid. That also didn't make any sense. But it's overshadowed by the stupidity of the twist ending. That says a lot right there.
 
I want to see an interview with Veena Sud where someone tells her that seemingly everyone had a problem with the finale, and asks her to respond.
 
The killer in the Danish version was Belko, Stan's assistant.
 
Interesting. I kind of liked the ending. I mean, the show is called, The Killing, not the case that solved through the course of one season. The job of a suspense show is to keep you guessing and a little on your toes. It succeeded in that.

There was some hokiness for sure. Anybody that has lived in Seattle will tell you in mist rains 200 days a year, but only rain rains about once a month. I feel like I'm watching Seven there's so much freakin rain in this show.

I like that the lead detective sucks at her two jobs (Mother and crime detective) and is clueless to both. She tells her ex-husband that she and her son are fine when he's a train wreck of a kid, and she keeps making huge mistakes as a detective - telling the parents there will be an arrest soon, not trusting Holden at all, then trusting him blindly.

I liked it. I thought the killer was going to be Richmond's right-hand man, but it makes sense that Richmond would drop off Rosie in her escort outfit and 5AM or so, and he would confront her in the house -- or he followed her all the way onto the ferry.

The only big flaw in that revelation would be that Rosie was drowned in the campaign car which only makes sense to me with Richmond. I'm sure you could craft the story as to how Belko did all of it, but based on what we saw him do when Larsen was pounding the school teacher, it wouldn't be his modis operandi.

I guess she could have escaped Richmond's car, Richmond goes down to the water to contemplate the end of his political career, Belko chases her down through the park, catches her, beats her to a pulp, she runs again to the waters edge only to find Richmond there ready to "rescue" her pain by sinking her in the Lake.

That doesn't work either. Who knows.
 
So let's summarize.

Jaybone likes Bz, hates Jason Terry, and likes The Killing season finale.

smh

Seriously though, there's good suspense and there's suspense for the sake of suspense. It wasn't a cohesive story, just twist followed by another twist with several red herrings intermingled in to the point that it just doesn't make sense.

What's sad about it is that there was a good core in there, but not enough.
 
Say Hey Deac said:
I've read several take-down pieces of the finale. One such review called in the "worst season finale in television history," which seems about right to me, at least among the shows I've watched.

What I'm really waiting for is the ultimately take-down piece about how, in light of the Holder revelation, nothing that we previously saw makes any sense. For example, the scene with Holder and the escort in the hotel room -- what the fuck was that? If he was in on it, why have that scene? And why the revelatory scene when he goes to the corner of whatever street, sees the Richmond campaign poster, and calls Linden? And why was he trying so hard to bust the teacher earlier in the season? I'm sure there's a laundry list of these questions that one could compile if one went back to watch previous episodes, which I'm obviously not going to do because this show sucked after episode 3. But, if I was so inclined, I feel confident I would conclude that NONE OF IT MAKES SENSE.
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Not that this excuses the episode, but I sort of just assumed Holder turned dirty late in the game, after all that stuff. Either that or, as someone else suggested, maybe he was just trying to speed the investigation up.
 
well he was genuinely shocked when he saw Richmond's picture and that was the most recent day. when asked about it, Sud said that Holder is such a good actor, being that he is undercover, who was he acting for exactly?

Also, she compared the episode with just Linden and Holder to The Suitcase episode of Mad Men and 4 Days Out of Breaking Bad. She is a joke
 
She didn't just compare. She said that those episodes were what she was trying to accomplish. Such an overrated sense of self.

I do feel like I need to catch up with Breaking Bad to get the bad taste of The Killing out of my mouth.
 
PhDeac said:
I do feel like I need to catch up with Breaking Bad to get the bad taste of The Killing out of my mouth.
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Funnily enough, they had a BB episode on after the 2nd showing of the Killing last night. I watched it, and combined with watching an episode of the Wire beforehand, it just made me angrier at The Killing.
 
The stuff with Holder made no sense, as Say Hey said. The whole episode was garbage. Coming right off Game of Thrones' excellent finale didn't help the show either.
 
Damn. That's an awesome column. I hope the AMC exec who approved a Season 2 gets fired. I'd throw a rotten tomato at Veena Sud if I saw her. I've seen some horrible TV in my life but that's an extra hour of sleep for the last 13 weeks I'll never get back and that really pisses me off.
 
Good God, that Simmons column is the best thing he's written in like 5 years. Brilliant take-down that is absolutely dead-on. My favorite paragraph might be the last one:

"Fourth and most important, I can't remember a single show damaging a network's brand this severely, to the point that AMC either needs to apologize, offer the entire Breaking Bad series on DVD for 85 percent off, or even publicly distance itself from the show the same way a sports team distances itself from a star player who does something horrible. That's how bad this was. AMC had won our trust over the past few years; because of that trust, we endured The Killing because we trusted AMC enough that we assumed they wouldn't screw us. It's unfathomable that none of the people running such a seemingly intelligent network said, 'We better leak to Tim Goodman or Alan Sepinwall that they're not wrapping things up in one season, we don't want people to be pissed off.' Nope. The ratings mattered more than the viewers."
 
Yeah, that finish was money. Simmons grasps the context of an event better than almost all in sports and entertainment media and more than most overall. The Killing was the signature show of the spring on the most trusted cable network in drama on the most trusted night in drama. Even though "only" 2 million people were watching The Killing, this was a huge blow to AMC's brand. Throw in the fact we're not getting Mad Men until January at the earliest and their credibility has taken a serious hit.
 
Bill Simmons is so amazingly accurate. I don't think I could express my feelings any better than he already has.
 
PS what the fuck is a "showrunner"? Never heard that term before. Is that like a director or something? Why not just say director?
 
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