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Ongoing gun violence/injury thread

scooter84 said:
Do you have examples of similar cases where the white perpetrator was "excused" due to mental illness while the black perpetrator's actions were said to be caused by a culture of violence?
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We literally have a 1300 page thread on this forum with numerous examples.

We recently had a shooting at Mt. Tabor in Winston where the narrative about culture of violence was prevalent.
 
WakeBored said:
John Hinckley says hello
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Milhouse said:
he's no longer institutionalized so you can say hello yourself
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He is responding to this nonsense.

myDeaconmyhand said:
*** The very very few people who successfully plea insanity are institutionalized for the rest of their lives.
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And while you're at it, say hello to the since-released John Michael Hayes. The Winston mass shooter acquitted on grounds of insanity. Released by the State of North Carolina a few years ago.
 
WokeandBroke said:
He is responding to this nonsense.



And while you're at it, say hello to the since-released John Michael Hayes. The Winston mass shooter acquitted on grounds of insanity. Released by the State of North Carolina a few years ago.
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Hinkley was in custody for 35 years...what would someone normally get for 4-5 counts of attempted murder?
 
myDeaconmyhand said:
You aren’t interpreting that scenario correctly. Prison is conceptually intended to rehabilitate criminals so that they can eventually be reintroduced to society. A person who doesn’t understand right and wrong can’t be rehabilitated and by that understanding it would be cruel for the state to force them into rehabilitative incarceration. The very very few people who successfully plea insanity are institutionalized for the rest of their lives.
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WakeBored said:
Lol

Chef’s kiss
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I’d hope after over 20+ years practicing law and discussing legal issues with you all, at some point you’d stop and think, “Hmm…WB probably knows what he’s talking about here. Maybe I should take note, look it up for myself, read up on the issue, and not dive into a counter argument based simply on what I believe to be true.”
 
WakeBored said:
Rehabilitation is only one of the 4 justifications for incarceration, the others being deterrence, incapacitation, and retribution. A person who can’t be rehabilitated can still be punished and his incarceration can deter others from committing crimes.
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clearly
 
WokeandBroke said:
I’d hope after over 20+ years practicing law and discussing legal issues with you all, at some point you’d stop and think, “Hmm…WB probably knows what he’s talking about here. Maybe I should take note, look it up for myself, read up on the issue, and not dive into a counter argument based simply on what I believe to be true.”
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why? he's just a troll
 
WokeandBroke said:
I’d hope after over 20+ years practicing law and discussing legal issues with you all, at some point you’d stop and think, “Hmm…WB probably knows what he’s talking about here. Maybe I should take note, look it up for myself, read up on the issue, and not dive into a counter argument based simply on what I believe to be true.”
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20+ years?!? WB has only been posting for about 10 months.
 
WokeandBroke said:
“Hmm…WB probably knows what he’s talking about here.
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Not believing in the insanity defense isn’t a matter of expertise, it’s just an opinion. None of the 4 purposes of incarceration would apply to the very rare defendant who is acquitted for legal insanity, as they would have to prove to a jury that they didn’t know what they were doing is wrong.
 
PhDeac said:
True. Yet I’ve never doubted board lawyers know the law. I’m critical of the laws and the legal system.
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You should definitely doubt that, particularly when lawyers start talking about areas of the law in which they don't practice or are JH. People think lawyers know the answer to every type of legal question, but that's like asking a proctologist to perform open heart surgery. Ask me a hard ERISA question and I have no fucking clue.

Except Junebug, he's the only lawyer in the US who is an expert in every area of the law.
 
myDeaconmyhand said:
You aren’t interpreting that scenario correctly. Prison is conceptually intended to rehabilitate criminals so that they can eventually be reintroduced to society. A person who doesn’t understand right and wrong can’t be rehabilitated and by that understanding it would be cruel for the state to force them into rehabilitative incarceration. The very very few people who successfully plea insanity are institutionalized for the rest of their lives.
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WakeBored said:
John Hinckley says hello
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Shooshmoo said:
You should definitely doubt that, particularly when lawyers start talking about areas of the law in which they don't practice or are JH. People think lawyers know the answer to every type of legal question, but that's like asking a proctologist to perform open heart surgery. Ask me a hard ERISA question and I have no fucking clue.

Except Junebug, he's the only lawyer in the US who is an expert in every area of the law.
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One of these days I've got to meet the people who like you. I have many questions.
 
imagine living in a country where more than 170 school shootings (and rising - including six active shooter situations) have occurred during 2021 and you still think owning the libs and screaming about your freedumbs is more important that protecting children.

Your pro-life party everyone!
 
Liquid Karma said:
We literally have a 1300 page thread on this forum with numerous examples.

We recently had a shooting at Mt. Tabor in Winston where the narrative about culture of violence was prevalent.
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This means nothing unless there is some reason that makes that narrative inappropriate in that situation. Do you feel like the narrative should have been about mental illness in that case? Why or why not? Sometimes the narrative SHOULD be about the culture of violence - I don't know enough about that case to have an opinion.
 
We all deal with mental health challenges and we all live in a violent US culture.
 
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