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    Official Pit Job Search/Employment Thread

    I think we should have one of these threads for questions about applying, interviewing, job offers, and new positions.

    My current question. How often in your career have you counter-offered a job offer? If you have done so, what were your terms? What have you found companies most likely to accept?

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    I've always tried to negotiate higher salary. Sometimes it works, sometimes not. Mostly yes. Only once did someone get snippy about it, but there wasn't really an offer on the table yet and the position kind of sucked anyhow.

    I just started a new job last week that wouldn't budge on salary, but I asked them to kick in an extra week of PTO. Employees get an extra year of PTO after two years of employment, so I asked them to waive that. They did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdoublezero View Post
    Employees get an extra year of PTO after two years of employment
    Sweet, it's like European maternity leave.

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    I want a new job. who wants to hire me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ipitytheblue View Post
    I want a new job. who wants to hire me?
    Tell me yo skillz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ipitytheblue View Post
    I want a new job. who wants to hire me?
    +1

    My primary search consideration is location (Triad area). Please PM if you have any leads, and I'd be happy to forward my qualifications. Many thanks.

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    Anyone ever negotiate with a start up company? I realize that part of benefit of working at one is getting in on the ground floor when there is lot s of room for growth. Currently I work in state government, have a cushy job but there is a relatively low ceiling. The new position would be lateral at best but with the potential for growth. The catch is that I have a wife and two small kids.

    How hard can I negotiate with the new lab? The job could be very rewarding personally and professionally but with a lot less stability.

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by forensicdeac View Post
    Anyone ever negotiate with a start up company? I realize that part of benefit of working at one is getting in on the ground floor when there is lot s of room for growth. Currently I work in state government, have a cushy job but there is a relatively low ceiling. The new position would be lateral at best but with the potential for growth. The catch is that I have a wife and two small kids.

    How hard can I negotiate with the new lab? The job could be very rewarding personally and professionally but with a lot less stability.

    Thanks.
    I would guess the only real opportunity for a lot of negotiation is on the up-side... Amount of equity, milestone bonuses, that sort of thing... If you are going to accept risk, there needs to be a reward if all goes well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by forensicdeac View Post
    Anyone ever negotiate with a start up company? I realize that part of benefit of working at one is getting in on the ground floor when there is lot s of room for growth. Currently I work in state government, have a cushy job but there is a relatively low ceiling. The new position would be lateral at best but with the potential for growth. The catch is that I have a wife and two small kids.

    How hard can I negotiate with the new lab? The job could be very rewarding personally and professionally but with a lot less stability.

    Thanks.
    I may be in this situation soon, it's scary for sure, but potentially so good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WakeBDer View Post
    Tell me yo skillz.
    fence-jumping, mostly

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    Quote Originally Posted by ipitytheblue View Post
    fence-jumping, mostly
    Impressive. I'll keep an eye out.

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    I interviewed with a company twice (3 times if you count a phone interview). After my last interview with the branch manager, he told me to take the weekend and then email them any thoughts or questions. I emailed him just to say thank you for the interview, and to express excitement about the position. I then emailed the managers assistant a week later to make sure they got my first email, because he hadn't responded. I get an email back 1 week after that from the manager's assistant, saying that she would check to see if he received my first email. It's been 2 weeks since that and I haven't heard a single thing. This is a staffing type company that's supposed to specialize in managing candidate/client relationships.
    Draxx them sklounst

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    Quote Originally Posted by myDeaconmyhand View Post
    I interviewed with a company twice (3 times if you count a phone interview). After my last interview with the branch manager, he told me to take the weekend and then email them any thoughts or questions. I emailed him just to say thank you for the interview, and to express excitement about the position. I then emailed the managers assistant a week later to make sure they got my first email, because he hadn't responded. I get an email back 1 week after that from the manager's assistant, saying that she would check to see if he received my first email. It's been 2 weeks since that and I haven't heard a single thing. This is a staffing type company that's supposed to specialize in managing candidate/client relationships.
    My guess: you are high but not at the top of the company's ranking of candidates. They are likely waiting to hear from the people in above you in the ranking on a yay or nay before saying definitely yes/no to you.

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    I think in most situations it doesn't hurt to negotiate something extra, even if the offer is pretty good.

    Last job, I got an offer which was a little more generous than I expected, but the vacation time was a week less than my current job. So I sent their HR guy a screenshot of my current time off policy, and asked them to match it, and they did.

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    One of the secretaries added me on LinkedIn. It says in her summary that she is looking to make a change.
    Hungry

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    anybody from the MSA program with a couple of years experience interested in an SEC reporting role in charlotte? we're hiring.

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    we're hiring an account management role (with experience in account management, experience within that role is negotiable-- we have bandwidth for newer AM's (like 2-3 years experience in account management) or more experienced (5-6 years)) in raleigh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TWDeac View Post
    I think we should have one of these threads for questions about applying, interviewing, job offers, and new positions.

    My current question. How often in your career have you counter-offered a job offer? If you have done so, what were your terms? What have you found companies most likely to accept?
    I negotiated on both my experienced hire jobs. With the first offer, they were very explicit that they tried to give people fair offers up front rather than the usual negotiation, and the offer I got was that. Despite that, I asked for more stock options and title using the whole "I know it's a startup but just from the interview I think the company will succeed, blah blah blah" which worked on the stock options -- they said no on the title, but promised a 6 month review, which they followed up on.

    For the next job they tried to low-ball me by coincidentally offering me the exact same salary and bonus I was previously making. They immediately went up on salary, but I tried to negotiate more on that. They were firm on the salary, so instead I asked for and received more PTO and got another 6 month review in terms of getting more equity (still yet to come). I regret not asking for a sign-on bonus, though.

    I think most people aren't going to be dicks about it if they've already decided that you are the one they want for the job.

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    For those who have gone back to potential employers with a counter offer (or at least asked for an increase from the original offer) I am curious what additional % the second offer was in terms of salary (or other benefits). How did that compare to your initial offer (i.e., was your first offer 20% over what you were previously making and you convinced them to give you 30%?)?

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    I'm looking if anyone needs (and what company really doesn't) need someone to run their Compensation, Benefit, or HR group. Just under two decades of experience (mostly in Total Rewards, but also OD and training). Double deac undergrad, ECU MA, Wake MBA. Would prefer SE, but open.

    On counters, for the current company they give them a chance to keep you until they can replace you. For the new company: Sometimes it's just expected, but other times it's a flat offer take it or leave it. I had an offer from Bank of America, that was more opportunity but flat cash until the bonus and equity kicked in. I called the recruiter back to ask if there was an opportunity to up the cash up front until to cover the relo or add to the sign-on.. Less than an hour later, I got a call saying the offer had been revoked. I thought I was just asking a question, but nope.

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