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Which is more useless at your workplace: IT or HR?

Which is worse?

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I will really be able to see which is most effective when IT catches me reading this thread at work and HR has to help fire me.
 
HR comes into my workplace to make everything harder. IT comes into my workplace to comply to my demands and make everything easier for me.

Thus, HR is much more useless.
 
it help desk is annoying but sys ad, dba, telephony, etc. is all pretty crucial
 
DBA at my place is another department altogether. And operations covers some traditional IT stuff like videoconferencing or telephony too. Maybe my place is weird. 150 employees, eight or so in IT. No developers or specialists, just helpdesk drones.
 
Tough call on this one...but I went with HR. It was close. My company has some EPIC systems issues. I would have voted for them, but for the fact that HR does absolutely nothing. At least the IT guys try....
 
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The problem with HR in the large companies I have worked for is that every year or so they feel the need to change, or completely re-design, the performance evaluation and rating system - and they are invariably overly complicated and cumbersome. From my perspective these changes appear to be transparent attempts at self-justification.
 
can anyone in an IT role give some insight as to just how much is done to look into employee's activity? just trying to figure out how screwed i am.
 
Work at a Fortune 500 company and I'll give my take.

The most visible role of HR in our company is recruiting and career development. They run our internal university program which can range from a technical class to an analytics class to learning another language. Very receptive to feedback and one of the most innovative areas of our company.

As for IT, our entire company is moving to meet the IT demands of the company. IT Strategy is one of the most desired teams to be on in the company, and we're pushing to give the IT developers and such more creative ability.

Overall, feel that there are far more useless areas of the company. If I had to choose one, HR is more internally focused and less business critical than IT so that'd be my answer.
 
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lbE08 said:
can anyone in an IT role give some insight as to just how much is done to look into employee's activity? just trying to figure out how screwed i am.
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Depends on the organization. I've never worked anywhere where I investigated an employee unless he was under an official investigation.
 
could you, at will, decide to just check out a particular employee if you felt like it?
 
No complaints about any of the support functions at my firm. They are really quite good, which is pretty impressive given that there's a pretty clear delineation between them and those of us on the ground, both in education / background and especially in pay. I would think it would be real easy for there to be a negative vibe between the two factions, but I don't see it.
 
lbE08 said:
could you, at will, decide to just check out a particular employee if you felt like it?
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I could, but I don't give a shit. Just don't download porn in my lab and we are cool.
 
lbE08 said:
can anyone in an IT role give some insight as to just how much is done to look into employee's activity? just trying to figure out how screwed i am.
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lbE08 said:
could you, at will, decide to just check out a particular employee if you felt like it?
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It absolutely, 100% depends on the company and the policies in place. Some places are extremely strict and instruct their IT staff to watch very closely, pay for them to have complex web monitoring tools and require regular reports. Other places don't care at all ... to the point where software tools you'd need for easy monitoring aren't even purchased or used.

In general, there is little IT staff hates more than monitoring employee behavior. IT generally attracts more anarchic/libertarian types anyways, and they would much rather be doing ANYTHING than snooping on employee web surfing habits - there's just so much other things to spend time on.
 
lbE08 said:
could you, at will, decide to just check out a particular employee if you felt like it?
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Do you mean out of spite? Otherwise, Vlad answered it pretty well.
 
I find that IT people are actually approachable and well-intentioned people. Granted, some of them like comic books, playing video games, and telling jokes in Klingon, but for the most part, they can solve your problems. Not always but usually.

HR people? I know some are good people. They are the exceptions. HR people are like architects. You think they're indispensable and necessary because they tell you they are.
 
HR, they sent me a letter (in comic sans, all their communications are in comic sans- that should tell you all you need to know) that said I had not been selected to interview for the position I currently hold, after I had already had the interview. That is only one of many, many examples of how they "operate"
 
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They do not believe in merit raises, and you can only get a raise once you change job titles. Even that is a long and tedious process. My boss thinks I'm doing a banging job and wants to give me a raise, cant happen unless HR gives it the ok. They're more interested in matching pay rates across the board relative to years of service as opposed to rewarding hard workers that are excellent at their job.
 
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