They already do - Berkley and Stanford are about 350 miles from Los Angeles
LA to Rutgers is 8 times that distance.
They already do - Berkley and Stanford are about 350 miles from Los Angeles
The SEC is the SEC and it's hard to match up with the teams they roll out, but it's weird to me that the Big 10 as a whole has publicly established itself as so clearly a tier above the ACC in football.
They have Ohio State, Michigan, and Penn State, all very famous. Wisconsin and Iowa are solid, as is Michigan State lately, but I don't think many consider those programs college football blue bloods or anything. Then there's a whole lot of Indiana, Minnesota, Illinois, Maryland, Rutgers, Purdue, Nebraska, Northwestern. How the deuce did this conference vault itself to where it's seen as *obviously* the 2nd of the "Big 2" conferences? Is it just off the national strength of Ohio State and the Ohio State/Michigan rivalry? Certainly not saying ACC football is better, but it's interesting to look at how many of the Big 10 schools are pretty mediocre at football.
Are those estimates before OU and Texas announced they are leaving the Big 12?
It's pretty clear the Big 12 is hosed going forward, as the Big 12 lags behind all other conferences in the media markets as confirmed by the former head of FOX Sports:
Bob Thompson, the former president of Fox Sports Networks, told me on Tuesday that a potential Pac-12 partnership with the ACC captures TV markets that include 27.7 million households. By comparison, the Big 12 television markets have only 14 million households.
“If you put the geography aside, the ACC markets are just better,” Thompson said.
There are 10 ACC markets with more than 1 million television households each. They are: New York, Boston, Atlanta, Washington, D.C., Tampa, Miami, Orlando, Charlotte, Pittsburgh and Raleigh. The Big 12 footprint has only four TV markets (Dallas, Washington, D.C., Houston and St. Louis) with more than a million households.
https://www.johncanzano.com/p/canzano-pac-12-getting-itself-back?sd=pf
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LA to Rutgers is 8 times that distance.
They already do - Berkley and Stanford are about 350 miles from Los Angeles
Are those estimates before OU and Texas announced they are leaving the Big 12?
It's pretty clear the Big 12 is hosed going forward, as the Big 12 lags behind all other conferences in the media markets as confirmed by the former head of FOX Sports:
Bob Thompson, the former president of Fox Sports Networks, told me on Tuesday that a potential Pac-12 partnership with the ACC captures TV markets that include 27.7 million households. By comparison, the Big 12 television markets have only 14 million households.
“If you put the geography aside, the ACC markets are just better,” Thompson said.
There are 10 ACC markets with more than 1 million television households each. They are: New York, Boston, Atlanta, Washington, D.C., Tampa, Miami, Orlando, Charlotte, Pittsburgh and Raleigh. The Big 12 footprint has only four TV markets (Dallas, Washington, D.C., Houston and St. Louis) with more than a million households.
https://www.johncanzano.com/p/canzano-pac-12-getting-itself-back?sd=pf
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LA to Rutgers is a ridiculous ask for a student-athlete, particularly one playing a midweek game. There is absolutely zero question about that.
LA to Pullman, WA is shorter...but it is a ridiculous ask for a student-athlete, particularly one playing a midweek game. Same goes for Chestnut Hill-Miami, or Lincoln, NE to State College, PA.
I guess the point here is that this travel is making a charade of the student-athlete experience, but to be honest, we're already making a charade of the student-athlete experience.
LA to Rutgers is a ridiculous ask for a student-athlete, particularly one playing a midweek game. There is absolutely zero question about that.
LA to Pullman, WA is shorter...but it is a ridiculous ask for a student-athlete, particularly one playing a midweek game. Same goes for Chestnut Hill-Miami, or Lincoln, NE to State College, PA.
I guess the point here is that this travel is making a charade of the student-athlete experience, but to be honest, we're already making a charade of the student-athlete experience.
I agree with your point, in general. But all of these examples are half the distance, one way, of LA to Rutgers.
LA to Rutgers is a ridiculous ask for a student-athlete, particularly one playing a midweek game. There is absolutely zero question about that.
LA to Pullman, WA is shorter...but it is a ridiculous ask for a student-athlete, particularly one playing a midweek game. Same goes for Chestnut Hill-Miami, or Lincoln, NE to State College, PA.
I guess the point here is that this travel is making a charade of the student-athlete experience, but to be honest, we're already making a charade of the student-athlete experience.
nomadic, what are your thoughts on this as a Pac-12 guy? How do you see this breakup going? What is the future for schools like Washington State and Oregon State?
nomadic, what are your thoughts on this as a Pac-12 guy? How do you see this breakup going? What is the future for schools like Washington State and Oregon State?
Pilchard's post seems to answer Say Hey's question perhaps unintentionally. Ignore conference names and think about the networks. It isn't that the Big 10 has emerged as the clear second best well above the ACC, Pac 10, and Big 12. The Big 10 just happens to have been the best Fox property and league Fox backed. It is also about eyes on TV sets/subscribers to cable packages. The Big 10 schools are big schools, with large alumni bases, in populous states. These are the factors that attracted Fox to backing them. Fox didn't have the access it wanted to the ACC, so the ACC is left to play second fiddle in the ESPN empire.
Totally get all that, it’s just bizarre to see how we’re apparently going to create 2 “super conferences” of college football programs that include a whoooooole lot of not very good football programs from the Big 10.
And SEC. Both conferences have a lot of dead weight for a Super League.
LA to Rutgers is 8 times that distance.
I don’t think I’ve ever watched BTN unless our Indiana game was on it. Do they ever have good games? Seems like they’re usually on Fox.