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2020 Democratic Presidential Nominees

myDeaconmyhand said:
All it took was one clumsy quote from Bernie for PH to suddenly want to open the southern border. If only the American left could weaponize that idiotic type of reactionary.
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LOL. I haven’t changed my stance.
 
TenaciousKory said:
really feeling the sweating man/two button meme for socialist Bernie supporters here

"solidarity with precarious life everywhere" on one and "populist love for the working class" on the other
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I've always been an isolationist populist as long as I've been passionate about politics. I dont think America is exceptional, at all, but I do believe that America should be the priority for American politicians.
 
myDeaconmyhand said:
Dont remember where you fell on the "abolish ICE" argument, but I'm sure it was very consistent and not contrarian at all.
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How can you claim to want to abolish ICE when you argument you don’t want people coming into the country and entering the workforce?
 
PhDeac said:
How can you claim to want to abolish ICE when you argument you don’t want people coming into the country and entering the workforce?
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JESUS Christ. We're not simply talking about immigration, we're talking about the hypothetical of an open border. If you cant honestly repeat my viewpoint then stop talking to me. It's gotten to the point where I cant stand you. You're blatantly dishonesty all the time. Just leave me the fuck alone man.
 
I stay off the tunnels for 2 weeks and I immedietely regret posting again. Jesus fucking Christ.
 
I wish the Pete supporters had something to offer besides just tearing down other candidates.
 
Open borders are a straw man. What kind of fool deals in such hypotheticals?
 
myDeaconmyhand said:
I've always been an isolationist populist as long as I've been passionate about politics. I dont think America is exceptional, at all, but I do believe that America should be the priority for American politicians.
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Being an isolationist seventy-five years ago was a silly thing. With the ability to reach almost any population center on Earth within twenty-four hours and the internet, being an isolationist is not possible or reasonable.

It's counter-intuitive if you are looking for progress in anything from water to technology to medicine. By shrinking the world as isolationist, you harming the world and those closest to you.
 
PhDeac said:
Open borders are a straw man. What kind of fool deals in such hypotheticals?
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i'm not an expert but i'm pretty sure open border policies are far from just a hypothetical
 
In a perfect world, fully open borders would be a given. We don't live in a perfect world. Like almost all things in life, there have to be some compromises.
 
RJKarl said:
In a perfect world, fully open borders would be a given. We don't live in a perfect world. Like almost all things in life, there have to be some compromises.
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Newenglanddeac said:
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That's a weird claim. Trump already won the presidency without releasing his tax returns. Why would he need political cover from Bernie?

Anyway, aren't we jumping the gun a bit? Hillary released her returns in August 2016.
 
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