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Conference Realignment Thread: New B1G divisions

Say Hey, the other thing at play re: Mid-Majors is that we aren't just talking about the mega conferences standing pat. We are talking about a lot more money than they are currently getting for all the teams at the table in the end.
 
Deacfreak07 said:
Say Hey, the other thing at play re: Mid-Majors is that we aren't just talking about the mega conferences standing pat. We are talking about a lot more money than they are currently getting for all the teams at the table in the end.
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Yeah, I think comparing mid majors to BCS conferences is overly pessimistic. The Big East is able to retain top tier basketball coaches while only receiving a fraction of the TV money the BCS conferences receive.
However, programs like Villanova, Syracuse, UConn, Georgetown, etc are able to fill up their basketball arenas. The [Redacted] era has been played out in front of mostly empty seats at the Joel.
 
Amazing how sanguine many WF fans are over the ACC's long-term prospects.

WF is in an extremely precarious position right now.
 
I thought Maryland was always the most likely school to leave.
 
I'll be outright flabbergasted if the ACC doesn't exist in a 14-16 team form that has a seat at the table for the college football playoff 5 years from now.
 
inspectah said:
Amazing how sanguine many WF fans are over the ACC's long-term prospects.

WF is in an extremely precarious position right now.
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Damn right...if the ACC folds we are done from a major athletic standpoint. As I said in another thread we picked the absolute worst time in the history of NCAA athletics to suck balls in major athletics.
 
SkinsNDeacs said:
Damn right...if the ACC folds we are done from a major athletic standpoint. As I said in another thread we picked the absolute worst time in the history of NCAA athletics to suck balls in major athletics.
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It would matter very little. We are not a big TV draw. That is what it is. That fate was sealed long ago. Are you suggesting that Rutgers is getting chosen because of recent success? MD? A&M?
 
Deacfreak07 said:
It would matter very little. We are not a big TV draw. That is what it is. That fate was sealed long ago. Are you suggesting that Rutgers is getting chosen because of recent success? MD? A&M?
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If this were years ago when our BBall team was constantly in the top 10 and the Football team was going to a BCS bowl we were at least an attractive choice on the field / court.
 
You people need to calm down. Even if the ACC falls apart we will have a spot in the new ACC and that conference will not get left out of a playoff in the long run. The playoff will go to 8 teams and eventually the ACC will get a bid and we will have a much easier road to get to the playoffs in that conference than the teams that leave would. We will be fine either way and we will not be in the SOCON or Big South.
 
jamesda3 said:
You people need to calm down. Even if the ACC falls apart we will have a spot in the new ACC and that conference will not get left out of a playoff in the long run. The playoff will go to 8 teams and eventually the ACC will get a bid and we will have a much easier road to get to the playoffs in that conference than the teams that leave would. We will be fine either way and we will not be in the SOCON or Big South.
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It depends on what the new ACC is.
 
jamesda3 said:
You people need to calm down. Even if the ACC falls apart we will have a spot in the new ACC and that conference will not get left out of a playoff in the long run. The playoff will go to 8 teams and eventually the ACC will get a bid and we will have a much easier road to get to the playoffs in that conference than the teams that leave would. We will be fine either way and we will not be in the SOCON or Big South.
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Unless the ACC becomes completely mostly basketball-centric, potentially by being 8 schools with football (Duke, Wake, Pitt, Syracuse, Navy, Boston College, Louisville, etc.) and 8 schools without (ND, Georgetown, Villanova, St. John's, etc.). I don't think they'd have a seat at the playoffs at that point.
 
If the worst happens a new ACC will more than likely look like this.

Wake
UCONN
Cincy
Louisville
Duke
USF
BC
NCSU
Pitt
Syracuse

A very good bball conference and a mediocre football conference, but I still believe we will get a spot at the playoffs when it goes to 8 as we would be the strongest non super conference. 60 team are not going to shut out 80+ teams without some sort of circumstance.
 
RHTOG&B said:
Unless the ACC becomes completely mostly basketball-centric, potentially by being 8 schools with football (Duke, Wake, Pitt, Syracuse, Navy, Boston College, Louisville, etc.) and 8 schools without (ND, Georgetown, Villanova, St. John's, etc.). I don't think they'd have a seat at the playoffs at that point.
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The Pac 12 will not expand to 16 unless it is Big 12 teams. And if 60 teams decide to shut out 84 teams what happens if those 84 teams refuse to play and include those 60 teams in a bball tourney and refuse to play them in football as well? I could see it getting really nasty 70% of the best bball universities would be left out.
 
Honestly, if the worst that happens is we end up in a conference with Boeheim, K, and Pitino, we will be fine athletically.
 
jamesda3 said:
The Pac 12 will not expand to 16 unless it is Big 12 teams. And if 60 teams decide to shut out 84 teams what happens if those 84 teams refuse to play and include those 60 teams in a bball tourney and refuse to play them in football as well? I could see it getting really nasty 70% of the best bball universities would be left out.
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Oh, don't get me wrong.... I think they could earn a seat in the playoffs (ala Kent State this year with the BCS), but I don't think they will get an automatic seat.
 
89DeaconMike said:
So three schools less than an hour away from each other that have been together since the 50s are all going to different conferences. The NC system would probably block it anyway. So the triangle schools are a package deal. Which conference is going to take all three? None. If the Big 10 wanted into NC then Wake is the most logical choice since all they care about is their network anyway. Anyone think Wake is joining the Big 10? Now Syracuse is going to spend 50 million dollars to leave a conference that it hasn't even started playing in yet. Really? Notre Dame leaves the Big East and joins the ACC and then turns around and moves to the Big 10 before they even start. Really? I just spent 4 days on campus at Notre Dame. It doesn't really come off as a place that just throws it word and reputation around very lightly. Clemson and UVA don't seem to have any desire to go anywhere. I guess I could see GT or FSU taking an offer somewhere but that leaves 13 other schools. Is there a conference that can take on 13 schools. I guess Duke could go to the PAC 12. I know there is some crazy stuff going on but a lot of this stuff is just dumb and is never going to happen. If everyone leaves then Wake can just become an independent. Because after the fees we will double our endowment.

BTW it appears to me that Wake's plan is tying itself very closely to Notre Dame. My guess is that if push comes to shove we will be taken care of. Notre Dame is still the big man on campus.
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Sure looked like it two weeks ago.
 
jamesda3 said:
If the worst happens a new ACC will more than likely look like this.

Wake
UCONN
Cincy
Louisville
Duke
USF
BC
NCSU
Pitt
Syracuse

A very good bball conference and a mediocre football conference, but I still believe we will get a spot at the playoffs when it goes to 8 as we would be the strongest non super conference. 60 team are not going to shut out 80+ teams without some sort of circumstance.
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That's the Big East. Just hope Wake and USF are in the same division.

And the PAC-12 doesn't need to expand and Texas doesn't need to leave the Big 12.
 
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