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Aerial banner at football game

Why should Ron retire? You assume the audience knows?
 
If there are 30,000 people there (and given the demographics of a football game), I'd wager there will be at least 3-4 people named Ron in the stands. Could get confusing.
 
Say Hey Deac said:
On a serious note, I really don't care one way or the other what you dudes do, but would suggest that if you want to minimize the public's opinion of you as obsessive and lunatic-y, figure out a way to raise anti-Wellman money and donate it to a charitable cause. Like, sell "Fire Wellman" buttons to tailgaters in the parking lot, then make a big deal about donating that money to feed the homeless or some such benevolent shit. That way your frustration would be viewed favorably and have a positive outcome, as opposed to flying a banner which just leads most people to be like, "holy shit, this crazy idiot just keeps wasting money for nothing." But, again, feel free to do as you wish. I am entertained.
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RedSoxFaithful said:
For what it's worth, Say Hey's suggestion about a publicized charitable donation is a very, very good one. Hell, we could give it to a local pop warner league if we want to keep it sports-related. But seeing how the local media responded to the billboard makes me think that we'd be better off with positive spin to help legitimize things.
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I can hear Nathan Hatch and Don Flow now, "Look how much money was raised for the pop Warner league by those WellmanOut lunatics! We'd be fools to fire Ron Wellman. Even when the man screws up, good things happen!"
 
My point was more that, hey, we've gotten a lot of good national press, but the local press has been shit and has generally painted us as lunatics. It might be worth the tradeoff to do a quieter story in exchange for some local spin.

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TheIshThatSaved WakeForest said:
Sell some #BuzzOut koozies/stickers/whatever at football games for $2 and give the proceeds to charity.
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This is an excellent idea. Give the proceeds to a program that builds basketball courts in St. Croix or Winston Salem or both, then send some sort of press release to the local media.
 
Agree that the coozie effort is a great idea. However, it is a separate project from the billboard. RSF, you should start the process now on the billboard to hit the beginning of basketball season.
 
I preface this by saying that I can't stand what is happening to our athletic program right now and understand and agree with much of the anger about our program; but flying a banner like this over a football game takes away from the moment of the guys on the field. They only get to play 6 or 7 games at their home stadium all year. They bust their ass in practice, run out on the field and there is a plane flying around saying to fire the athletic director (which says indirectly to the players: sorry but you suck and we want the athletic director fired) and fire the basketball coach (saying to the players: sorry but really don't care about you and would rather focus on flying banners around about the basketball program). There are other ways to accomplish the same objective. The billboards and all are one thing, but this is starting to feel like the guy that yells "Mashed Potatoes" after a PGA golfer swings primarily so he can be heard but not seen on television, not because he has any idea where the ball is actually going.
 
WFU1990 said:
I preface this by saying that I can't stand what is happening to our athletic program right now and understand and agree with much of the anger about our program; but flying a banner like this over a football game takes away from the moment of the guys on the field. They only get to play 6 or 7 games at their home stadium all year. They bust their ass in practice, run out on the field and there is a plane flying around saying to fire the athletic director (which says indirectly to the players: sorry but you suck and we want the athletic director fired) and fire the basketball coach (saying to the players: sorry but really don't care about you and would rather focus on flying banners around about the basketball program). There are other ways to accomplish the same objective. The billboards and all are one thing, but this is starting to feel like the guy that yells "Mashed Potatoes" after a PGA golfer swings primarily so he can be heard but not seen on television, not because he has any idea where the ball is actually going.
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Finally somebody with some decency. This is the last year of football that 99% of these boys have left, and this season is pretty much their lifes work to this point. No one should take that away from them for some childish stunt.
 
I dont have any comment on this except to say it is hilarious.
 
WFU1990 said:
I preface this by saying that I can't stand what is happening to our athletic program right now and understand and agree with much of the anger about our program; but flying a banner like this over a football game takes away from the moment of the guys on the field. They only get to play 6 or 7 games at their home stadium all year. They bust their ass in practice, run out on the field and there is a plane flying around saying to fire the athletic director (which says indirectly to the players: sorry but you suck and we want the athletic director fired) and fire the basketball coach (saying to the players: sorry but really don't care about you and would rather focus on flying banners around about the basketball program). There are other ways to accomplish the same objective. The billboards and all are one thing, but this is starting to feel like the guy that yells "Mashed Potatoes" after a PGA golfer swings primarily so he can be heard but not seen on television, not because he has any idea where the ball is actually going.
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CoffeeDeac said:
Finally somebody with some decency. This is the last year of football that 99% of these boys have left, and this season is pretty much their lifes work to this point. No one should take that away from them for some childish stunt.
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Exactly what actions would each of you be willing to support? Or are you each just another do nothing LOWFer?
 
CoffeeDeac said:
Finally somebody with some decency. This is the last year of football that 99% of these boys have left, and this season is pretty much their lifes work to this point. No one should take that away from them for some childish stunt.
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We are only returning 1% of football players next year? Holy shit, that is like a Bz wet dream scenario of inexperience and youth.
 
If the banner was about the football coach, then I would agree with you. Insulting the AD and [Redacted] is different. Most of the players probably will agree with it.
 
BigTreeDeac said:
We are only returning 1% of football players next year? Holy shit, that is like a Bz wet dream scenario of inexperience and youth.
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I was talking about the seniors, sorry professor. Cant you guys just be patient? Everybodys undefeated right now just let it rest for a while.
 
I don't see the end game with the aerial banner.

We got money together for ads during the ACC Tournament (which was perfect) and we have money for two bilboards, one of which isn't even up yet. The message has been sent loud and clear. At some point it just looks like we have a bunch of people that want to see a blurb on ESPN or get interviewed by WXII. Board of trustees, local and national media, Hatch, etc., have all received the message. If at the end of next season we feel like we need to do more because Wellman still wants to keep him around, then let's start again. But at this point, Buzz's earliest removal is at the end of the 2013-2014 season. A protest now does nothing except fuel a few egos.

Nothing to do with being a LOWFer. And I don't object to this on the grounds that we need to support football players. I just don't see the logic.
 
ManhassetDeac said:
I don't see the end game with the aerial banner.

We got money together for ads during the ACC Tournament (which was perfect) and we have money for two bilboards, one of which isn't even up yet. The message has been sent loud and clear. At some point it just looks like we have a bunch of people that want to see a blurb on ESPN or get interviewed by WXII. Board of trustees, local and national media, Hatch, etc., have all received the message. If at the end of next season we feel like we need to do more because Wellman still wants to keep him around, then let's start again. But at this point, Buzz's earliest removal is at the end of the 2013-2014 season. A protest now does nothing except fuel a few egos.

Nothing to do with being a LOWFer. And I don't object to this on the grounds that we need to support football players. I just don't see the logic.
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Because of our weak out of conference schedule, we realistically can't put up a billboard until Buzz begins lossing big in Jan or Feb. The banner would remind Ron and 30k fans know in the meantime hat we aren't letting up. Also, maybe we use the banner to address the out of conference opponents and that a winning season is still a loss.

If the majority of the board doesnt want to do the banner, no big deal. For those of you concerned about the football players, I am completely cool with flying this before the game.


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I would just funnel money towards keeping the billboard alive. Get fresh messages and keep it interesting.
 
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