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Football Prognostications...

Lectro said:
Ok.

When he started he was in a little over his head. Wake Forest has been a unique situation because Jim looks at Steed in the same way as he looks at a 2 star player who has lots of potential but has not yet been polished. Today, I see Steed as a RS JR or SR. I expect more out of him now that he is 'seasoned'. He has no excuses nor will he use them. In fairness to Steed, the Offensive Line recruiting was really poor in the middle part of the decade. This is not unusual in recruiting. The Big uglies are the hardest to land and so finally, finally! after all these years between Collins, Azzolina, Moosebrugger, Clabo he has a group with great size and nimble feet. Sure, there were years when we had a Vallos or a Justice or a Lingruen or a Degeare but now we have 10-12 guys with the requisite size to really run the ball. That, and we have RB's that run where they are told.

We would also do well to remember some of the kudos (Lindy's Profile pre-season 2007) Lobotzke has received from his peers.

Jim is a time control freak...that is his brand of football and he will not stray too far from his core philosophy even if short term gains can be made. He is a long range planner and his signing of last years surprise OL prospects coupled with the Standouts of 2011 (Preble, Goodwin, Intemann) marks an important evolutionary stage for the program.

So, I see Steed around the middle of the pack but with greater upside than many of the OC's ahead of him. Again, it will have to come with the "Run-Game" (think 'clock') because that is the core belief of Jim's. Sure, he could see bringing in a kid like Riley at ECU but that 'high flying' stuff does not have staying power. Love him or hate him, Grobe is trying to build it to last and any OC working for him will follow suit.
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Thanks for the good answer and analysis.
 
WAKE FOREST WILL DEFEAT Notre Dame in 2011!

Ok fellas...there I am with my ass out in the wind and ready to be shot off but it is a feeling that has been growing for some time.

I'm going to jump the shark even though The Oracle has not officially informed me...all the tell tale signs are there. The hair is rising on my neck as I type this... it is transforming and on its way to Becoming a Vision.

WE ARE GOING TO DEFEAT Notre Dame!
 
That.would.be.epic.

Not sure if the young guys are ready yet, but maybe if they come out with some real fire.
 
I'm on the bandwagon. I think we can go 6-6 maybe 7-5. I think it's possible we beat Notre Dame.

I am concerned about our defense though. The same guys who gave up 700 points are back. I know they are a year older and we get some guys off redshirt status and Justin Jackson back. I do expect significant improvement, but with a new scheme and mostly the same players, I am not expecting miracles.

I think we give up 30+ defensive points at least three times and lose all three of those games. I think we score 30+ three times as well. Our offense, punters, and special teams have to give our defense 65+ yards on every possession though, that means some first downs, few turnovers, and the Aussie has to be the real deal. Our great defenses bent but didn't break. Last year, for me, our defense can be summarized in Luck's 50 yard scramble for a touchdown without being touched. It was ugly.
 
Lectro, sweetie, you know you aren't allowed to post without taking your pills first.

Now come to the kitchen and take them. I have a pb&j ready for you with the crusts cut off - just like you like it.
 
lectro, thanks for the reasoned take on Lobo. Of course, I think we could have done better than a 2* with potential at OC all these years given the limited number of BCS OC positions in college football. I also think if we were recruiting OCs every year, he would have been benched.

As much as the 2004 class helped the defense, it hurt the OL. We overrecruited at OL in 2005 and got one NFL guy, three contributors, and three guys who barely played and I think all of them left the program early. That was a killer.

lectro, you may remember this. Why did our staff go all in on defense in 2004? Were they going after the best players available? Didn't want to pass up on Curry, Arnoux, et al for lesser players on offense?

I'm enjoying the non-combative dialogue. Let's keep it up.
 
As far as teams that might be over-hyped...whom do we see?

I see FSU... I am just not going to buy it. I realize the league could use a surge from them. It has no feel to it...IMO
 
It will be a hell of a season if Wake wins more than 4 games next year.

We have a better team, but the schedule is MUCH harder.

As far as the FSU comment thrown out earlier, FSU is going to be ridiculously good this year.
 
I like positive reports. Hope for a brighter future is the joy of WF football and when it does happen, well no fan base enjoys it more.

However, trying as hard as I can and especially given our schedule, I think we are a year away from being consistent enough to win. Last year's experience will be valuable for our young guys; but, having the experience of playing is one thing, having the experience of playing correctly is another. I expect that we will play much better this season but still with major lapses. Next season I expect that we will play well consistently.

Now, if it comes a year early, I will be delighted.
 
Wakeforest22890 said:
It will be a hell of a season if Wake wins more than 4 games next year.

We have a better team, but the schedule is MUCH harder.

As far as the FSU comment thrown out earlier, FSU is going to be ridiculously good this year.
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That is some serious "remains to be seen" going on at FSU. But I love seeing them hyped as pre-season juggernauts. I think their QB will get banged up out in Norman.
 
mebanedeac said:
I like positive reports. Hope for a brighter future is the joy of WF football and when it does happen, well no fan base enjoys it more.

However, trying as hard as I can and especially given our schedule, I think we are a year away from being consistent enough to win. Last year's experience will be valuable for our young guys; but, having the experience of playing is one thing, having the experience of playing correctly is another. I expect that we will play much better this season but still with major lapses. Next season I expect that we will play well consistently.

Now, if it comes a year early, I will be delighted.
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Not sure if this is part of what you were referring to, but it fits the bold.

Our young guys played very little real competitive football. Much of their experience was extended garbage time or against garbage teams. I'm not going to bother doing the math, but I'm guessing we played stunningly few minutes within 2 TDs or ahead last year. I think that type of crunch time experience is what propels a promising freshman into a stud. That can't be manufactured.
 
Haven't they been saying FSU was back in the preseason the last 5-7 years. I will believe it when I see it.

I am sticking with my original predictions, although losing Johnson scares me as he had shown the most progress and fire in the spring.

We will win: Duke, Vandy, NCSU, Cuse, GW, BC, and Maryland

We will lose: VT, FSU

Toss Up: ND, UNC, Clemson

7-5

Josh Harris
1200+ yds 14 tds.
 
Those "We will win" games are certainly winnable in that they're against teams I don't think will be that good next year, at least on the level of Tech and Navy last year.
 
PhDeac said:
Those "We will win" games are certainly winnable in that they're against teams I don't think will be that good next year, at least on the level of Tech and Navy last year.
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Of those 7 games I see BC, Maryland, and Syracuse like the Tech and Navy game the others I think we win easily.
 
jamesda3 said:
Haven't they been saying FSU was back in the preseason the last 5-7 years. I will believe it when I see it.

I am sticking with my original predictions, although losing Johnson scares me as he had shown the most progress and fire in the spring.

We will win: Duke, Vandy, NCSU, Cuse, GW, BC, and Maryland

We will lose: VT, FSU

Toss Up: ND, UNC, Clemson

7-5

Josh Harris
1200+ yds 14 tds.
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If we go 7-5 Grobe should win coach of the year honors, also we never beat Clemson at Death Valley
 
Lectro said:
Ok fellas...there I am with my ass out in the wind and ready to be shot off but it is a feeling that has been growing for some time.

I'm going to jump the shark even though The Oracle has not officially informed me...all the tell tale signs are there. The hair is rising on my neck as I type this... it is transforming and on its way to Becoming a Vision.

WE ARE GOING TO DEFEAT Notre Dame!
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If we are going to "sniff .500" given the rest of our schedule, we'd better.
 
We will go 7-5

Couple factors:

Lonnie Galloway has put together a passing game that will get guys open. Patterns that are more difficult to defend.

Our offense will be much improved and keep the defense off the field. The defense will play with more confidence and energy.


2010 spring ball was horrible. Tanner was still in HS, Harris was out due to acedemics, we had no idea what we wanted to do on both sides of the ball...This spring was very productive. All of our key guys were there and made improvement.

There were a few cancer type players on the team last season that our gone and team chemistry is high!

This is a hungry, talented, angry team that is going to surprise alot of people..
 
Lectro said:
Well Ph, last season was scary because on Offense you could feel the tension...take the FSU game which the D kept tight in the 1st half but eventually wore down.

On the first series Price hits Givens on a 26 yard gain...the play is called back on a non-hold (I'm not much for complaining about calls but this one was phantom) --- Anyway, whatever. The Deacons were desperate to get some kind of momentum with their 18 year old QB. How to get going in games and at the same time not drown your young protege. As it was, we promptly were forced to punt and FSU got behind their 1st round draftee QB. The first half of that game is as instructive as any last season. The Deacons are so close...this season they will have positive traction on offense.

Dennis Godfrey has grown as a man and a player. He is profiled in Sporting News for his work with his hometown...everything has come full circle for Dennis and I am happy and proud for him.

The entire Offensive line has worked probably harder than at any time in Grobe's era. Steed's responsibility is now focused on the line and not the TE's or the off-field issues which weighed heavilly on him last year. The weight room has been a camp-out for Weaver (328), Hoag(305), Williams(315), Looney(325), Godfrey(345), Summers(330), Blitch(330), Heartsill(305), et.al.

* We also see runningbacks running to the hole. Many runningbacks never have enough trust to run to the hole before it has formed. Harris has no 'dance' in him and trusts that the crease will appear. Nick Knott runs the same. Pendergrass has picked it up as well.

Givens is a budding star at WR. He is just a JR. Kenny Moore did virtually nothing before his JR season (typically when Grobe Deacs pick up steam) ---Danny Dembry is a solid glue type at WR who blocks well downfield as well as makes reliable grabs. A good safety-valve for Tanner. Michael Campanaro needed Yloo to roll on. He is simply a better ball player and I assure you he will not drop punts inside our own ten. He is explosive enough that Kiper rates him among the top 15 KR's in the nation even though he is only a rising Sophomore. --- Terrence Davis is 18 months removed from his knee deal...don't ask me why but some guys need a full year to get the rust off and the confidence back. By the end of spring Terrence was back to his explosive self and is again the guy with "so much promise". We really need our two RS SR TE's to show-out this year. Nothing specatcular, just combine to be a "steady eddie" at End.

Tanner got thrown in the fire and survived. His numbers are ok from last year and taken in context of his experience he handled himself well. I look for much improved play from him. He simply has a great head on his shoulders, an accurate and outstanding arm and he is tough.
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Good stuff Lectro. Always interested to here 'insider insights' like this.

And yeah............this is my first post here on this board. Been reading it for a while and finally decided to join. Sad the other board went into a coma.
 
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