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Official Hoops Coaching Search Thread - Welcome Danny Manning!!!

jimbob said:
He's thinking all the same things we are. Absent a rabbit out of wellman's ass Manning has all the leverage and he's using it.
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As much fun as it is to track planes during a coaching search, and as little info as we'd have without tracking the flight this morning, the dumbfucks in the Athletics Department need to find a plane with a blocked tail number if they're going to pull this shit. It undermines two weeks' worth of no leaks of other coaches turning us down.
 
Seriously, some people on this thread actually validate idiots like Brett Friedlander
 
Disagree that this is not a good hire for Wake Forest. Is it a home run hire?? No. Is it an instantly putting your program back on the map hire? No but Danny Manning is a good hire for Wake Forest.

This has nothing to do with LOWF. We are not LOWF but we are also not a big university that can care less if its incoming recruits can read. Fit is important.

Danny Manning will have his foot in the door with any recruit he wants. The parents all have watched Danny Manning win an NCAA tournament and play in the NBA. Manning is also a high class individual who communicates well. He will represent Wake Forest very well. He will get the Joel rocking again with Wake Forest fans. He will get the students fired up and put alumni and other fans back in the stands.

As for all coaches, who they put on the bench beside them is critical to their success. I hope he has someone with head coaching experience that is not [Redacted] as one assistant and Randolph as a second. I do hope Wellman, though, lets him choose his staff. I would love seeing Manning work with the bigs and Childress work with the guards.Those two guys are winners who have willed their team to win a NCAAT and an ACCT respectively
 
BobStackFan4Life said:
It has nothing to do with hating Manning the person. But there is no way this should be viewed as an acceptable hire. Just look at his record as a head coach, what little there is of one. He lost to Oral Roberts at home last season! This would be a bad hire for Wake under any circumstance but after four years of Bz it is a horrendous hire. No way to rationally spin it otherwise.
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You are aware he was coaching Tulsa, not Kentucky, right?
 
RedSoxFaithful said:
Looking at his debut season's record is a little disingenuous. He had the 5th most inexperienced team in the nation and was picked to finish last in the CUSA. They finished 6th (8-8). That's a pretty significant overachievement. I get that the loss to Oral Roberts (and the subsequent loss at Missouri State) looks bad. It is bad. The team was a mess at the start of the season, for whatever reason, but they really did turn it around.

In terms of raw results, I'm not discouraged by anything Manning accomplished at Tulsa. Granted, I'm not really encouraged either (the resume is still very thin, regardless of what's on it), but I don't see many reasons to project outright failure from his time over there.
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It's limited, but taking a young team picked at the bottom of a conference and winning that said conference in year 2 is quite impressive. Seems strange that one would want to argue otherwise.
 
The more I think about this the more OK I am with Manning.

First, the relevant comparison isn't Mannings vs. Smart or Marshall. It's Manning vs. [Redacted] -- i.e., the coach we still would have today but for people other than Ron Wellman stepping in and putting their proverbial foot down.

Second, by all accounts we offered a shit-ton of money to Smart and the bro and his wife just said no. It's cool, it happens. So now what--we still need a coach, and we still have no clue what Howland or Marshall wanted from us in terms of money/terms or how interested they really were in Wake to begin with.

At the end of the day, I really think that had that horrible "swing for the fences" BS not been thrown out there in the press, we'd all be relatively on board with DM.
 
ChrisL68 said:
It's limited, but taking a young team picked at the bottom of a conference and winning that said conference in year 2 is quite impressive. Seems strange that one would want to argue otherwise.
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Tulsa was set up to be very good over the next two years. I'm not sure how much of that should go to Manning vs. Wojcik who brought in a lot of the key players, but he certainly would have been a hot name over the next couple years.

Also their two commits for 2014 have very impressive offer sheets after some underwhelming previous classes.

#ManUp
 
So what if Danny Manning were named Alan Smith, was 6 inches shorter, and never played in the NBA? Same exact coaching resume. Are we still OK with the hire?
 
middy said:
More than any other quality, we need a coach that can effectively recruit against the legendary coaches in the ACC. We need someone that can attact the top talent to Wake Forest. We need someone who differentiates Wake Forest from the others. I think Danny Manning can be that person and am excited to have him as our coach. While he may not have has enough history to prove without a doubt he can be that person, he certainly has been extraordinarly successful. I think he is worth the risk. He has shown enough at Tulsa that he can coach and he has the name recognition that will put us in the mix for recruits that we may not have had a chance with the past.

We need to get behind our coach because without question, the continuing negativity will drag down the program. Danny Manning has the resume to support being hired as the coach of Wake Forest. We need to have someone who can change the perception the program. It is reasonable to think Danny Manning can be that person and we need to help him move the program forward. In thinking through all the positives, I think we have a very bright future with Danny Manning.
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Ladies and gents, Mr. Wellman's Executive Admin!!

Thanks for chiming in. I'm sure this will calm everyone down.
 
bigdoublezero said:
So what if Danny Manning were named Alan Smith, was 6 inches shorter, and never played in the NBA? Same exact coaching resume. Are we still OK with the hire?
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I don't know. Having been in the NBA is part of what gives Manning more upside though, right?
 
A few more hours and everyone will have talked themselves into this being a great hire! It may end up being great....now we have to just wait and see.
 
IAppreciateIt said:
Tulsa was set up to be very good over the next two years. I'm not sure how much of that should go to Manning vs. Wojcik who brought in a lot of the key players, but he certainly would have been a hot name over the next couple years.

Also their two commits for 2014 have very impressive offer sheets after some underwhelming previous classes.

#ManUp
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didn't the two best players transfer when Wojcik left?
 
Fact is we need him to succeed so he should get our support. He also seems like a decent cat, unlike the last dipshit. Another four years of basement basketball and it will become even more impossible to recruit players or coaches. I just want a sliver of hope. If he fails I'm afraid that I, and many others who don't live in the southeast, are simply going to adopt new teams. Many already have. People can pretend it's not an important hire, but a decade of basement basketball will really hurt. This is not 1980. Players, coaches, parents are all pretty saavy. We can only push CP3, Tim Duncan connections for so long before they no longer matter. I'm praying that Manning can also get those guys, including Teague and JJ, to publicly support the school. It matters.
 
IAppreciateIt said:
Tulsa was set up to be very good over the next two years. I'm not sure how much of that should go to Manning vs. Wojcik who brought in a lot of the key players, but he certainly would have been a hot name over the next couple years.

Also their two commits for 2014 have very impressive offer sheets after some underwhelming previous classes.

#ManUp
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Tulsa's best two players left before Manning's first year. Doug Wojcik didn't do jack in Tulsa in 7 years. Now you're saying he set it all up to win the conference with a group of sophomores?
 
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