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Official Hoops Coaching Search Thread - Welcome Danny Manning!!!

Funny, I thought of Frank Underwood when bdz posted his hypothetical. Frank Underwood don't deal in 'em.
 
KidA23 said:
I mean...that's kind of where we're at, no? Look man, I wanted Shaka too and I ain't crazy about DM, but if we truly are about to hire this bro we might as well try and find the positives here.
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Sorry, I thought we were discussing coaching candidates on this thread. Are we not discussing Danny Manning anymore?
 
So I'm standing on a trade show floor in Vancouver with a KU grad who thinks Manning is a great choice for Wake. He said that Manning was the best liked assistant under Self and had an obvious close relationship with his players. Do I think Manning is the answer, no, but he is an upgrade from the last 4 years
 
bigdoublezero said:
So basically we're hiring Danny Manning because he was good in college, he was a decent player in the NBA for 15 years, and we hope people will think that's cool/that will translate to success in running a college basketball program?
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Exactly.

Same reason people pull for Childress to be the coach...or Larue...or Muggsy.


Name =/= coaching ability
 
Why aren't these candidates knocking each other over to come to Wake? We have our own arena, enough money, patient fan base for the successor of Bzz, small media market (little press pressure). On the down side, we play in the toughest conference in America, which I think is a challenge, not a problem. How did these candidates view Wake before the job opened up?
 
DeaconSlim2.0 said:
Exactly.

Same reason people pull for Childress to be the coach...or Larue...or Muggsy.


Name =/= coaching ability
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Oh for fuck's sake. Manning has a coaching resume. It's not as thick as I'd like, but it's there. On the Internet, too, for all to read.
 
We're all disappointed we didn't get a more experienced coach than Manning, but the reality appears to be that our job is not sufficiently attractive to those coaches as it stands today. The hope is that Manning builds us back up to the point where we can make an offer to a Shaka Smart or Archie Miller and they will accept.

Also, when that day comes, Wellman won't be the AD, so, yay!
 
bigdoublezero said:
So basically we're hiring Danny Manning because he was good in college, he was a decent player in the NBA for 15 years, and we hope people will think that's cool/that will translate to success in running a college basketball program?
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He's also been coached by legends. some of that has likely rubbed off. He's been around the highest levels of basketball his entire life. He's been an assistant on a national championship team. he's recruited for a Top 5 school against the likes of Duke, UNC , KY. He's been to The Dance as a coach.

His overall resume is bigger than White's or the other Second tier coaches.

Your hypothetical was insane.
 
bigdoublezero said:
So basically we're hiring Danny Manning because he was good in college, he was a decent player in the NBA for 15 years, and we hope people will think that's cool/that will translate to success in running a college basketball program?
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Seems like. I mean Bzaster was a coach in the NBA! That got the fan base excited, and the recruits to come! oh wait...
 
I like that he knows how a championship program operates in the twenty-first century from his extensive time at Kansas. Apparently our AD does not have a complete grasp on that.
 
Say Hey Deac said:
We're all disappointed we didn't get a more experienced coach than Manning, but the reality appears to be that our job is not sufficiently attractive to those coaches as it stands today. The hope is that Manning builds us back up to the point where we can make an offer to a Shaka Smart or Archie Miller and they will accept.

Also, when that day comes, Wellman won't be the AD, so, yay!
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Hope he gets us to the point where we don't need Shaka Smart or Archie Miller.
 
bigdoublezero said:
Well, I asked people if they thought that based purely on his coaching record if he'd be a good hire, and people said no. You say you'd hire Alan Smith?
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No one is hiring 2/5 of a coach. This is moronic.

All Manning's resume lacks -- from being bulletproof -- is a few more years of head coaching success. He's inexperienced. We get it. That's the risk. Everything else in his profile looks outstanding, including his limited work at Tulsa. That's the upside. Personally, I think the mix is good enough for an ACC job. It's not like this guy is Bzz.

To be unable to hope that those early-resume-building, winning years will now be on Wake's sidelines instead of Tulsa's -- and that we got a hot, rising young coach before the other vultures could snag him -- is ... I can't even find the right word. Sad?
 
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RJKarl said:
He's also been coached by legends. some of that has likely rubbed off. He's been around the highest levels of basketball his entire life. He's been an assistant on a national championship team. he's recruited for a Top 5 school against the likes of Duke, UNC , KY. He's been to The Dance as a coach.

His overall resume is bigger than White's or the other Second tier coaches.

Your hypothetical was insane.
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Jeff [Redacted] was mentored by Pat Riley.
 
Wake must be a really unattractive job when the best we can get is a coach who has only only two years head coaching experience with only one semi-decent season in a bullshit conference. That's hard to accept but I guess it's where we are. Congrats LOWF, you have won the day. Congrats Ron, you've beaten the fanbase down to where they stupidly think this is an acdeptable hire.
 
Say Hey Deac said:
We're all disappointed we didn't get a more experienced coach than Manning, but the reality appears to be that our job is not sufficiently attractive to those coaches as it stands today. The hope is that Manning builds us back up to the point where we can make an offer to a Shaka Smart or Archie Miller and they will accept.

Also, when that day comes, Wellman won't be the AD, so, yay!
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Yes, with Wellman as AD and leading the effort, Manning was about as good as we could hope for. That's on him, not WF.
 
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