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The Emerging Republican Advantage

OK, NYC is generally ridiculous, but even there you are talking about a mandate issued at the city level (the lowest level possible) for kids using city facilities. And kids, along with old farts, are the ones who should be getting flu shots anyway. I don't really see an issue with what NYC is doing.
 
Go said:
Interestingly enough, I think Mississippi is one of the States that mandates childhood vax. Good for them, we never say anything nice about them. (Well typically there isn't much to say)
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Clearly that's why they're so poor and dumb.
 
So...when Obama gives citizenship to the kids that came over from Mexico, do those people get a required Vax?
 
Even if there were religious exemptions permitted I don't think that the following constitutes an objection on religious grounds ("sincerely held belief"):

"The risks for the flu shot are pretty high, the benefit is not that good," O'Toole said.

If you're getting into the merits of whether or not it works, and O'Toole clearly is, then you're already past the point where you would be objecting on religious grounds one would think. The religious objection, which I don't think can really conceivably be argued as being any sort of actual objection steeped in text or tradition, wouldn't get into a cost-benefit analysis of it. That's comical.

She seems from these statements to simply want to use a religious exemption whenever she doesn't want to do something.
 
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So...when Obama gives citizenship to the kids that came over from Mexico, do those people get a required Vax?
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Yes. Vaccination records are checked when the green card is issued, but not before then.
 
WFFaithful said:
Rand Paul the physician is anti-vax
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It's one thing when Bachman claims a women told her the HPV vaccine caused "mental retardation" in her kid, but it's another when Dr Rand blatantly panders. He's said a lot of dumb stuff and is quickly gaining on Ben Carson. Can none of the 'Pubs just play it straight and say what they truly believe without being terrified about pissing off fringe wingnuts? Reminds me of Mitt cozying up to Chief Birther Trump. Sigh.
 
I love when "religious exemption or something" is just used as a catch all excuse for being a dip shit. Goddamn Big Vaxx treading all over our religious freedom
 
I can not believe that in 2015 we are actually talking about the validity of vaccinations.
 
When did this anti-vax thing become a real thing. I mean, I'd heard a few crack pots talking about it, but I always thought it was a new age yuppie thing and for parents of autistic kids who were looking for some reason why their kid is the way it is. I am floored that there is seemingly a large contingent of the populous who believes that vaccines are dangerous.
 
It's been a thing for at least 10 years.

When my first kid was born I remember discussing this stuff with my wife. That was before the Lancet article was debunked and retracted. We decided pretty quickly that following Jenny McCarthy's advice as opposed to our doctor's was stupid. But it was a thing we talked and worried about.

When you're a new parent you worry and obsess about everything. Probably more so when you're an (over)educated upper class parent who has (too much) time to read shit on the internet. To someone who doesn't have kids, or even to someone who has a few years of perspective as a parent, a lot of the stuff new parents worry about is objectively ridiculous and stupid. I mean, a LOT. So I can understand how people get wound up about this stuff. I blame the Jenny McCarthy's and Rand Pauls of the world who ought to know better but still pimp this fake, debunked "science" to feed the worry and obsession of sleep-deprived parents.
 
^don't disagree with any of that. I don't think that "scared parents" is a reliable voting block.
 
It's been a thing for awhile but it recently became a political divide. Polls show there was no political difference in support for vaccines in 2009 but by 2014, the GOP shifted toward anti-vaccine. That could be a result of moderates moving out of the party during the Tea Party surge.
 
That was a helluva political #hottake
 
TownieDeac said:
Look at Wrangor's rhetoric about "science changing" and science being wrong. Makes me pretty angry.

I guess I just don't see the strategic political advantage from the GOP that comes from the anti-science fear mongering.

The party set back stem cell research, basic research funding, alternative energy research, lots of JOB CREATION sectors. Pretty despicable stuff.
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WHY DO YOU LIE?

Embryonic stem cell research has gone no where.
 
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