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Obama calling out Congress to "Rebuild America"

RJKarl

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Saying there's a bill that would people back to work today, but Congress is not voting on it.
 
RJKarl said:
Saying there's a bill that would people back to work today, but Congress is not voting on it.
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Yes and as soon as we pass it, we can find out what's in it, amirite?

RJ: Tell him to back away from the teleprompter and go do something. It is, ironically enough, the economy, stupid.
 
There's are a couple of bills out there. Keith Ellison of Minnesota and Jan Schikowski (sp?) of IL each have one.

The latter is an infrastrcuture bank.
 
Obama should do the opposite of what he's doing. He should say "I don't want Congress back in DC. I don't want them here in the bubble causing partisan gridlock. I want them out getting scolded by the American people for their inaction with respect to the problems we face with unemployment and economic growth."
 
PhDeac said:
Obama should do the opposite of what he's doing. He should say "I don't want Congress back in DC. I don't want them here in the bubble causing partisan gridlock. I want them out getting scolded by the American people for their inaction with respect to the problems we face with unemployment and economic growth."
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That would take leadership, something he clearly lacks.
 
He would help his cause tremendously if he and his many advisors would introduce a plan other than "Congress needs to do it".
 
Marietta Deac said:
He would help his cause tremendously if he and his many advisors would introduce a plan other than "Congress needs to do it".
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Yep. He's done nothing to convince me that he's not the junior president from Illinois and legislator in chief.

If he had come in ready to take Congress to task, both sides, he would have gotten more down with 59/60 and even if he suffered gridlock, the people would side with him.

He needs to understand that we don't feel represented by our representatives. He can fill that void.
 
PhDeac said:
Yep. He's done nothing to convince me that he's not the junior president from Illinois and legislator in chief.

If he had come in ready to take Congress to task, both sides, he would have gotten more down with 59/60 and even if he suffered gridlock, the people would side with him.

He needs to understand that we don't feel represented by our representatives. He can fill that void.
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I am wondering if his advisors are the problem. Bush was obviously no great ideas man but his advisors always had something specific for him to use in his speeches. For example, how many times did we hear about "clean coal".

The President should go on an offensive and develop an economic recovery plan with his economic advisors, make it public and send it to Congress.
 
Marietta Deac said:
I am wondering if his advisors are the problem. Bush was obviously no great ideas man but his advisors always had something specific for him to use in his speeches. For example, how many times did we hear about "clean coal".

The President should go on an offensive and develop an economic recovery plan with his economic advisors, make it public and send it to Congress.
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I've never been that impressed with his cabinet to the extent that you hear from them. Geithner is a horrible front man and I can't imagine he's been in private.

My impression of Obama's advisors is that they don't have much sense of governance, only running elections.

The problem when Obama gets on message is it sounds more artificial than when Republicans do it. It's not his style. He's a professor. That's a tough style to adapt to the presidency.
 
I do not like this Uncle Sam, I do not like his health care scam.
I do not like these dirty crooks, or how they lie and cook the books.
I do not like when Congress steals, I do not like their secret deals.
I do not like ex-speaker Nan, I do not like this 'YES WE CAN.'
I do not like this spending spree, I'm smart, I know that nothing's free.
I do not like their smug replies, when I complain about their lies.
I do not like this kind of hope. I do not like it. nope, nope, nope."
— Dr Seuss 2011
 
^^^^^^^^^^^^I'm cringing at the idea of millions upon millions of 60 year old baby boomers forwarding that lame email (they think is actually funny) to each other while continuing to suck the remaining lifeblood of this country at a perilous rate.
 
PhDeac said:
Yep. He's done nothing to convince me that he's not the junior president from Illinois and legislator in chief.

If he had come in ready to take Congress to task, both sides, he would have gotten more down with 59/60 and even if he suffered gridlock, the people would side with him.

He needs to understand that we don't feel represented by our representatives. He can fill that void.
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Spot on.

From his first week in office he has deferred to both the Pubs and Dems in Congress and they have sunk him. Why a man ridding such a wave of popularity did that has to be one of the more baffling questions in modern political history IMO.
 
Reference some of the discussion of Dino going from an assistant to head coach. I think a lot of people on both sides of the isle were waiting for him to establish himself beyond the promising young senator from Illinois and he didn't do that. I think governors have an edge in leadership because they're outsiders. They didn't buddy buddy with senators and reps. Obama did. When you're young for what you do, you can't assume people will respect you. You've got to grab respect and take it by the throat and demand it.
 
PhDeac said:
Reference some of the discussion of Dino going from an assistant to head coach. I think a lot of people on both sides of the isle were waiting for him to establish himself beyond the promising young senator from Illinois and he didn't do that. I think governors have an edge in leadership because they're outsiders. They didn't buddy buddy with senators and reps. Obama did. When you're young for what you do, you can't assume people will respect you. You've got to grab respect and take it by the throat and demand it.
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But he is not dumb...he had to know he was ridiculously more popular than those on the other end of PA Ave. He had to know that hitching his wagon to them was a losing proposition...at least he should have figured it out after "stimulus". Instead of learning from that he turned right around and did again with health care...then again with Bush tax cuts...then again with debt...

I really don't get it. Now he is nearly as unpopular as they are. He has little to no capital left.
 
I don't think he's dumb. I just think he's a believer in the legislative process. He thought he was hitching the Congressional Dems to his wagon, not vice versa. Now he's holding on to those beliefs.

Edit: Believing in the legislative process is pretty dumb.
 
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