Strickland33
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As a "macro" factor, I disagree. As a "micro"? Sure.
That's fair.
As a "macro" factor, I disagree. As a "micro"? Sure.
I think we'd have concurrence if these could be flipped. As extensively noted, racism is a factor, but I believe the role of the macro is played by what you do, more so than what you look like. Again, exhaust yourselves decrying my naiveté (and here come the "Well, when I lived in a duplex off of Cherry Street...stories), I just don't operate with palpable, persistent fear of racism as a driving factor.
But Kaepernick is protesting the racists.
No he isn't, he is protesting the national anthem.
no shit, whitey. I think that black people are trying to say that their experience in America is a wee bit different from yours. Shocking, I know. Your attemt to make this about laziness or race baiting is disappointing. The man is trying to make this point and you are just shaking your head saying he (and other blacks like Charlotte) just have it all wrong and need to act right, like you do, and their experience here will be like yours.
No he isn't, he is protesting the national anthem. I have yet to see him protesting a KKK rally or even a police union luncheon.
No he isn't, he is protesting the national anthem. I have yet to see him protesting a KKK rally or even a police union luncheon.
I'm stunned and amazed that you didn't give my argument a fair characterization.
I'm at about 8,000 miles on my oil (don't worry, it's synthetic). Do you think I should change it, or should I protest instead?
Your argument is shit, frankly. All you have done is say that 1) protesting racism is futile, 2) mistreatment of blacks at the hands of police is not racist, it is about economic class and that 3) Charlotte doesnt understand
I think we'd have concurrence if these could be flipped. As extensively noted, racism is a factor, but I believe the role of the macro is played by what you do, more so than what you look like. Again, exhaust yourselves decrying my naiveté (and here come the "Well, when I lived in a duplex off of Cherry Street...stories), I just don't operate with palpable, persistent fear of racism as a driving factor.
I want to make sure I'm clear with my use of micro vs macro. At the micro (individual level) yes everyone is responsible for their own actions and by and large if they stick to your oft cited playbook, they'll probably be fine. However when I talk about the macro I'm saying that with the persistence of systemic racism as noted in FPD and BPD investigations you will undoubtedly have a higher percentage of people that fall out of line. And if we can eliminate this, more people will stay with your playbook. Your view seems so binary which is easy to apply to an individual but I think you lose sight of what will naturally happen when you negatively influence an entire group.
Your argument is shit, frankly. All you have done is say that 1) protesting racism is futile, 2) mistreatment of blacks at the hands of police is not racist, it is about economic class and that 3) Charlotte doesnt understand her own experience.
But we can stop, i understand your position precisely, I just wanted you to write it out for clarity. thanks, man
Crap. I guess I will have to protest my oil. Here I was all ready to change it, and then you swooped in to save the day. That was a close one, thanks!
eta: Since I'm new to this protest deal, does that work with your newborn's diapers? Let's say he really loads one up, what do you do...draw a couple of protest signs, gin up a hashtag and go all #saveourturds?
good summation
complete non sequitur
I think this one's over.
That isn't a gotcha statement. It's a provable fact. I'll bet you a glass of iced tea that a majority of American poor people aren't held back by racism.
Prove it.
Prove it.