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Official Russian Election Interference Thread

Newenglanddeac said:
Dude for the umpteenth fucking time, the issue isn't Hillary losing the election, the issue is a foreign state fucking with our election. If it makes you feel better that we only care because Hillary lost, then that's something you and the rest of the partisan hacks on this board need to deal with on your own.
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Sure. Okay.
 
knowell said:
Sure. Okay.
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Believe what you want but you fucking beat this drum over and over and over and over and over when the vast majority of us have said (including Trump supporters..joe Walsh says hello)...that a foreign state intervening in our election is something all Americans should be pissed about.
 
Newenglanddeac said:
Believe what you want but you fucking beat this drum over and over and over and over and over when the vast majority of us have said (including Trump supporters..joe Walsh says hello)...that a foreign state intervening in our election is something all Americans should be pissed about.
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Yea, maybe. On the list of issues the US has to deal with I would put this somewhere lower than 100 but above 200.

More like something you are curious about than something that really bothers you. Not sure why this hits so much closer to home for you.
 
So this wouldn't be on your Problems with Americaness syllabus?
 
PhDeac said:
So this wouldn't be on your Problems with Americaness syllabus?
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Don't think we would have time to get to it. We might cover it under "What happens with voters find out too much about their candidates".
 
knowell said:
Yea, maybe. On the list of issues the US has to deal with I would put this somewhere lower than 100 but above 200.

More like something you are curious about than something that really bothers you. Not sure why this hits so much closer to home for you.
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What does lower than 100 but above 200 mean?

Whatever dude....if it doesn't piss you off that a foreign state interfered with our election, thats your problem at the end of the day. I have to deal with your bullshit and other trumpshills bullshit but you have to reconcile that belief every time you think about it.
 
The idea that the democratic primary was a sham is nonsense, but the left did this to themselves.

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Interview with Assange in La Reppublica from two days ago. Interesting that Assange believes Russia is an open society where there are several natural competitors to Wikileaks so there's no need for WL to release information on them. Keep in mind this is the same country that poisoned Pro-western Ukrainian leader Yuschenko.

Hmmm I wonder if someone is a Kremlin asset???

https://www.google.com/amp/www.repu...ssange_wikileaks-154754000/amp/?client=safari

Q:In a famous interview, you declared that at the beginning you thought that your biggest role would be in China and in some of the former Soviet states and North Africa. Quite the opposite, most of WikiLeaks' biggest revelations concern the US military-industrial complex, its wars in Afghanistan and in Iraq and its serious human rights violations in the war on terror. These abuses have had a heavy impact in an open and democratic society like the United States and produced 'dissidents' like Chelsea Manning willing to expose them. Why aren't human rights abuses producing the same effects in regimes like China or Russia, and what can be done to democratise information in those countries?


"In Russia, there are many vibrant publications, online blogs, and Kremlin critics such as [Alexey] Navalny are part of that spectrum. There are also newspapers like "Novaya Gazeta", in which different parts of society in Moscow are permitted to critique each other and it is tolerated, generally, because it isn't a big TV channel that might have a mass popular effect, its audience is educated people in Moscow. So my interpretation is that in Russia there are competitors to WikiLeaks, and no WikiLeaks staff speak Russian, so for a strong culture which has its own language, you have to be seen as a

WikiLeaks is a predominantly English-speaking organisation with a website predominantly in English. We have published more than 800,000 documents about or referencing Russia and president Putin, so we do have quite a bit of coverage, but the majority of our publications come from Western sources, though not always. For example, we have published more than 2 million documents from Syria, including Bashar al-Assad personally. Sometimes we make a publication about a country and they will see WikiLeaks as a player within that country, like with Timor East and Kenya. The real determinant is how distant that culture is from English. Chinese culture is quite far away".
 
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knowell said:
Don't think we would have time to get to it. We might cover it under "What happens with voters find out too much about their candidates".
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or they release their tax returns?
 
Newenglanddeac said:
Interview with Assange in La Reppublica from two days ago. Interesting that Assange believes Russia is an open society where there are several natural competitors to Wikileaks so there's no need for WL to release information on them. Keep in mind this is the same country that poisoned Pro-western Ukrainian leader Yuschenko.

Hmmm I wonder if someone is a Kremlin asset???

https://www.google.com/amp/www.repu...ssange_wikileaks-154754000/amp/?client=safari

Q:In a famous interview, you declared that at the beginning you thought that your biggest role would be in China and in some of the former Soviet states and North Africa. Quite the opposite, most of WikiLeaks' biggest revelations concern the US military-industrial complex, its wars in Afghanistan and in Iraq and its serious human rights violations in the war on terror. These abuses have had a heavy impact in an open and democratic society like the United States and produced 'dissidents' like Chelsea Manning willing to expose them. Why aren't human rights abuses producing the same effects in regimes like China or Russia, and what can be done to democratise information in those countries?


"In Russia, there are many vibrant publications, online blogs, and Kremlin critics such as [Alexey] Navalny are part of that spectrum. There are also newspapers like "Novaya Gazeta", in which different parts of society in Moscow are permitted to critique each other and it is tolerated, generally, because it isn't a big TV channel that might have a mass popular effect, its audience is educated people in Moscow. So my interpretation is that in Russia there are competitors to WikiLeaks, and no WikiLeaks staff speak Russian, so for a strong culture which has its own language, you have to be seen as a

WikiLeaks is a predominantly English-speaking organisation with a website predominantly in English. We have published more than 800,000 documents about or referencing Russia and president Putin, so we do have quite a bit of coverage, but the majority of our publications come from Western sources, though not always. For example, we have published more than 2 million documents from Syria, including Bashar al-Assad personally. Sometimes we make a publication about a country and they will see WikiLeaks as a player within that country, like with Timor East and Kenya. The real determinant is how distant that culture is from English. Chinese culture is quite far away".
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Wut?
 
 
Why did Assange think he was going to cater to non-English speaking dissidents without bridging the distance between those cultures and English?
 
BobStackFan4Life said:
But from my perspective, the liberal media routinely peddled fake news to demonize Trump and demoralize his voters. I'm not joking. What has happened to the Washington Post and other outlets is a disgrace. I've never seen such bias from the media before. Right before the election you had media outlets saying Hillary had a 98% chance of winning and it looked like the Dems were taking back the Senate. That was "fake news" as was Trump being a Manchurian Candidate. What about all the lies Hillary and her staff peddled, including against Bernie. Lies that were dutifully reported by the MSM and repeated by her supporters- like all the supposed threats from "Bernie Bros"? The woman is a dirtbag. Trump is no saint, but I think he genuinely loves America and wants to MAGA. I can't say the same about Hillary.
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fake news has been the stock and trade of the left and liberal media for a long, long time
 
sailordeac said:
fake news has been the stock and trade of the left and liberal media for a long, long time
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You think news is fake because you don't believe it. Fake news is simply not true even if you want to believe it.
 
PhDeac said:
You think news is fake because you don't believe it. Fake news is simply not true even if you want to believe it.
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I've been watching fake news from the left for a lot longer than you have even been aware of it's existence, but thanks for the pointers anyway professor.
 
My parents, big Trump supporters, are now planning a visit to Russia soon ! They are so excite.
 
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