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Retired US Soccer / World Cup Thread (RIP)

PhDeac said:
I'll add that the US hosted the World Cup 23 years ago. That was supposed to kick off the age of American relevance on the world stage. The USMNT should be full of experienced players who watched that USA-Colombia match when they were little boys. Instead, it is a roster of crap players led by a kid who wasn't even born then.

What a missed opportunity. You all should have been way more pissed before now. 30 years of planning led to losing a must tie match Trinidad.

I'm glad you all are waking up though.
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Every week I find myself reading these boards thinking "that's peak Ph, there's no way he can out-stupid himself this time" and every fucking week I am wrong. How the hell do you do it? It's honestly impressive
 
Portugal and [hopefully] Denmark.

I'm devastated about the US, but also very sad the Dutch are out, too.
 
PhDeac said:
That seems too broad. Men's soccer is the only team sport the US tries to be good at and fails.

Part of that is the whole world plays it. But the other part is what deaconson is saying. It's a rich kid sport. The best athletes don't play it. And apparently the powers that be are just trying to get paid.
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Pretty clearly this. If soccer was being played in the hood like hoops, we'd be fucking awesome at it, probably the best in the world. If it was played in the suburbs and countryside like football, we'd be fucking awesome at it. Its best hope for the past several years has been to tap the best kids from the soccer mom suburbs. That isn't going to cut it. The most athletic kids are still playing hoops and football by a long shot. Soccer gets to compete with baseball and hockey for the rest. It's different for girls because their only competition is hoops, but you can look at the USWNT and still see that it's very much a middle and upper class game in the US with the girls too (translation: lots of white chicks playing soccer).

We can point to the tangled financial interests of MLS or lack of an AAU style system, but until Americans at all income levels care about soccer, it's marginal at best.
 
TownieDeac said:
Imo the program should be run like FC Dallas, and I wouldn't mind if Pareja was considered for the technical director position the US clearly needs. I don't think the US wins on a German style of gegen pressing or positionless midfield or anything too novel. I think you need to put your best players in the best positions to succeed, so run Pulisic at the other team's weakest defender and get a forward who makes a lot better runs than Jozy in there to receive the balls Pulisic will be putting in.
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Pareja has my vote as well
 
Tough break. Thought GK should have come out. Although that ball should never have hit the ground to begin with.
 
Is soccer a rich kids' sport? It certainly isn't in other countries and to the extent that it actually is in America, that's pretty baffling.

I don't think it's a rich kids' sport. It's generally regarded as a sport anyone can play since you just need something to act as a ball and space.
 
Sure, but even using wealth as a proxy for race I don't think it's true. Plenty of people of color play soccer.
 
Wakeforest22890 said:
Is soccer a rich kids' sport? It certainly isn't in other countries and to the extent that it actually is in America, that's pretty baffling.

I don't think it's a rich kids' sport. It's generally regarded as a sport anyone can play since you just need something to act as a ball and space.
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https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/918171498774396932
 
This team has shown a lot more heart down a goal than our senior team did on Tuesday.
 
Wakeforest22890 said:
Is soccer a rich kids' sport? It certainly isn't in other countries and to the extent that it actually is in America, that's pretty baffling.

I don't think it's a rich kids' sport. It's generally regarded as a sport anyone can play since you just need something to act as a ball and space.
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You can play for cheap in this country but not at a club. I'm talking something like Optimist where there are parent coaches and not trained staff, which hinders proper development.

Clubs do scholarships though, so that helps out those that are less financially able to pay for joining a club.

For instance, look at the following link to see prices for Twins here in the Triad: http://competitive.twincitysoccer.org/fee-structure/
 
Wakeforest22890 said:
Is soccer a rich kids' sport? It certainly isn't in other countries and to the extent that it actually is in America, that's pretty baffling.

I don't think it's a rich kids' sport. It's generally regarded as a sport anyone can play since you just need something to act as a ball and space.
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That's the way it is around the world. Sure.

But in the US, space is a commodity that requires money. Lack of public rec space factors into this as well. The sport isn't popular enough so supply and demand requires people pay for coaching and opportunity to play competitively.
 
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