Newenglanddeac
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Seth Moulton 2020
Moulton makes more sense this time around as a veep for Harris, Klobuchar or Gillibrand if 1 of those 3 is the nominee to bring balance to the ticket.
But yeah, I like any of the young guns who are advocating to dump Pelosi.
I'll wait to see if "anti-war" ITC is itching to vote for a centrist iraq war vet who all the generals love.
i never said I was anti-war
I've repeatedly called to cut military expenditures and pull back from our most of our misadventures abroad that don't actually serve to make us safer. a crazy centrist thought, indeed
I disagree. Gotta strike when the timing is right and the timing is right for Moulton. Young, good looking, incredible resume, puts country over Party, educated....he is the anti trump.
Gillibrand will be Hillary 2.0 due to her relationships with the Clintons.
Another thought:
Biden/Moulton 2020
And Biden promises to step down after one term.
I don't think Gillibrand's problem is her relationship with the Clintons, which has gotten icy of late with her calling Bubba out. I see her problem as being seen as too much of a 1 issue candidate. I don't see her that way and like her, but in making a name for herself, I think she is doing that. Add to that she doesn't ooze charisma, though she has more than Klubochar. The more I think about it, the more I think Harris is the strongest female candidate the Dems could field.
I also don't like your Biden suggestion. Not only age, but I gotta think he has some sexual baggage that has yet to be uncovered. The party needs to look younger. Dump Pelosi and just say no to Biden, Bernie and Warren as nominees. I like your Moulton suggestion, and like Numbers, I do like Booker. Gimme either of those 2, Harris or Hickenlooper. And if it is a male nominee, please thoroughly vet his sexual history.
Yeah these are all really good points.
I agree Biden comes with some risks but I really think you need someone who can go toe to toe with Trump in the "putdown" department. If he's still around in 3 years, he's still going to be a complete attention whore and I think Democrats/Independents need someone who can clip his wings in a respectful (i.e. non-Trumpian) way. I think Cuban could play this role as well but I am strongly opposed to candidates without some form of public service experience.
I'd prefer somebody other than Biden as well as long as they've got a serious chance, but if the other candidates look weak I do think Biden could beat Trump. I think he would have beaten Trump in 2016. He's only four years older than Trump, so the age issue would be a hard one for the GOP to make. Biden also has a working-class, blue-collar background and feel that many other Democrats lack, which I think would be to his advantage against Trump, and so would the Obama connection with other Democrats. He could definitely go toe-to-toe with Trump in televised debates and probably more than hold his own, even in the quips and put-downs department. My problem with Biden, as others have mentioned, is that he's been around for a very long time, which means he certainly has skeletons in his closet (sexual, financial, or otherwise) that you know the GOP will discover and exploit to the fullest. Also, he's hardly a fresh face, which may hurt him, although given that Trump won't be a fresh face in 2020 either it probably won't be a real issue. Hopefully the Dems will do well in this year's elections and find some fresh, dynamic candidates, but if not Biden would probably do about as well as anybody against Trump.