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BBall Recruiting Thread 2k19 - Charles Coleman de-commits to Wake. :(

2&2 Slider To Leyritz said:
I'm just amazed that, whether you are getting paid or not, you care enough to stop what you were doing and drive an hour to write a story about a relatively meaningless transfer joining our otherwise shitty and irrelevant basketball program.
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I've absolutely no idea how to take this.

Of course I did. I'm a sports writer. My job is to write about Wake Forest Athletics. I love what I do, and attempt to do it to the best of my ability every day.

Even with my best efforts, I fall short of what I wish I could accomplish. There was never an moment that afternoon where I thought, "screw the new Wake Basketball commit, I'm out with my wife. It will wait until tomorrow."
 
Les, don't take 2&2 seriously. None of us do.
 
Lol yeah 2and2, next time something comes up at work just don’t bother doing it because somebody, somewhere could not believe that you would drop what you are doing to do the job that you are paid to do and make a living off of.

BOLD STRATEGY!
 
Remember the recruiting chats with up to a 100 or more poor suckers desperate for any crumb thrown our way. Seems like a different world these days.
 
Stepping back and acknowledging that exchange from afar is pretty hilarious too.

2and2 posts on a Wake Forest Basketball Recruiting thread on an internet message board in a mocking tone that he cannot believe somebody cares about a player committing to Wake Forest to play basketball.

And yet he cares enough about not caring to not only read the thread and keep up with what’s going on, but actually denigrate somebody who covers Wake Forest for a job and keep people on this thread in the loop.

Amazing.
 
LesJohns3D said:
I've absolutely no idea how to take this.

Of course I did. I'm a sports writer. My job is to write about Wake Forest Athletics. I love what I do, and attempt to do it to the best of my ability every day.

Even with my best efforts, I fall short of what I wish I could accomplish. There was never an moment that afternoon where I thought, "screw the new Wake Basketball commit, I'm out with my wife. It will wait until tomorrow."
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Yeah I meant it as a compliment to you, not an insult. From the standpoint of it is your job not your fandom, and your job exists because of and to support our fandom. I am supposed to be the person who cares so much about WFU basketball that I should be excited to learn about about this transfer, whereas you are supposed to be the more neutral third party who is simply conveying the information. Yet at this point you are busting your ass to provide me with information yet I don't even care enough about the program to read the article that you dropped everything to write supposedly for my benefit. Fuck you, Ron Wellman.
 
2&2 Slider To Leyritz said:
Yeah I meant it as a compliment to you, not an insult. From the standpoint of it is your job not your fandom, and your job exists because of and to support our fandom. I am supposed to be the person who cares so much about WFU basketball that I should be excited to learn about about this transfer, whereas you are supposed to be the more neutral third party who is simply conveying the information. Yet at this point you are busting your ass to provide me with information yet I don't even care enough about the program to read the article that you dropped everything to write supposedly for my benefit. Fuck you, Ron Wellman.
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Interesting dichotomy, eh? It certainly isn't lost on me that my job would be a more fun and profitable venture should Wake Basketball become good again.
 
LesJohns3D said:
Interesting dichotomy, eh? It certainly isn't lost on me that my job would be a more fun and profitable venture should Wake Basketball become good again.
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#MWBGA
#BuyLowSellHigh
 
For WKRP fans:

"More news and Less Johns"

Seriously, though... thanks, Les!
 
Rivals updated their 2019 rankings today. Of note pertaining to Wake Forest:

We are listed for 3 of the top 16 players: Cole Anthony #2 overall (predicted to go to Duke), Jeremiah Robinson-Earl #9 overall (predicted to go to Kansas), and Trayce Jackson-Davis #16 overall (predicted to go to Indiana).

I always said I liked Isaac Okoro at SF, and he is now a 5-star SF ranked at #22 leapfrogging Wendell Moore who is ranked #25. Jalen Lecque dropped 9 spots to #18. Omar Payne is #48. Rocket Watts is #50.

Patrick Williams jumped 13 spots to #61 and they had this to say about him: who do you think will make the biggest jump from this ranking to the next one? We moved Williams up 13 spots in this update. I still think there is room for him to inch closer to five-star range before the end of the summer. He has the physical makeup and the skillset of somebody that will fit well with the way the game is trending. Williams offers positional versatility on both ends of the court, shoots it at a pretty good clip, can get to the bucket and finish, and he defends and rebounds well. I like him as somebody that could continue to trend upward the next few months.

Anthony Harris also jumped 13 spots to #65. Terrence Shannon Jr. jumped 23 spots to #71 overall. Dahmir Bishop is up 38 spots to #77 overall. Jaylin Williams is up 21 spots to #79. Ismael Massoud is up 1 spot to #89 overall.

Tre Mitchell jumped into the top 100 at #92 and Rivals said this: which players may be ranked too low? Mitchell has made impressive strides both in his game and his body in recent months. He has lost more than 30 pounds and has tightened up his frame by putting on strength. Ranked No. 92, Mitchell has moved up some but I still worry that we have him too low. He is not Jared Sullinger but he does have similar dimensions to the former Ohio State great. Whether it is scoring in the low post with an array of post-up moves, extending the defense with the perimeter jumper or carving up the defense out of the high post with the accurate pass, Mitchell gets it done in an efficient manner. On the Nike circuit this spring, his first and last on a shoe-sponsored platform, he averaged 10 points, eight rebounds, two assists and a block per game.

Outside of the top 100 up to #150 we have Kai Jones at #123 and Daniel Ramsey at #125. Issa Muhammad, Tyrese Samuel, and Jason Jitoboh are unranked in the top 150 but probably just outside it in the 150-200 range.

Also of note two old offers at C, Balsa and Chol Marial were considered the "hardest to rank" and fell massively in the rankings due to underperforming this past year.
 
I think realistically we could still make a push for Anthony Harris and Wendell Moore, pair them with a big outside of the top 100 like Kai Jones, Daniel Ramsey, or Issa Muhammad, and have a nice 2019 class. Only reason I think this is possible is because Duke is probably going to land Cole Anthony, Bryan Antoine, and Scottie Lewis meaning no real space for Moore and a better opportunity for him here. We are likely option #2 for Moore right now, and could win by default. Harris will require a strong push by the staff, but its doable. Landing one of the non-top 100 bigs shouldn't be hard. Add 3 guys like this and minimize roster turnover from this year's team, and we may be onto something for '19-20 season.
 
RacerDeac said:
He has some good teams on his interest list, but none of the blue bloods. Currently an Indiana lean. Seems like a good 5 star to go after.
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Interesting, Racer. You don't count IU as a blue blood? Were they before in you mind, and how many blue bloods are there currently in your mind? Different folks have different definitions, for sure but in my mind Indiana is in that conversation at least.

Have a great day!
 
LesJohns3D said:
Interesting, Racer. You don't count IU as a blue blood? Were they before in you mind, and how many blue bloods are there currently in your mind? Different folks have different definitions, for sure but in my mind Indiana is in that conversation at least.
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Not anymore. Not in the minds of the teenagers currently being recruited. Bob Knight retired from Indiana before these players were even born. Last NC in 87, last FF in 02 (and I don't even think they were ranked in the final AP poll). Wake's two decades before [name redacted]/Manning were better than Indiana's last two decades.
 
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Would agree if Jackson-Davis was from any other state, but ... Indiana. Indiana basketball may not be a big deal in 49 states, but it still resonates in the land of the Hoosiers.
 
It doesn't help us that Trayce's dad is beloved Pacer Dale Davis. I think a lot of people will be shocked if Trayce leaves the state of IN.
 
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