sailordeac
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but K's whole program is built on one and dones, that will not be fair to Duke
Really depends on your definition of "High level" but Durant, Blake Griffin, Michael Beasley, John Wall, Cousins, Kyrie, Wiggins, Towns, Tatum, Devin Booker, Markennen, DSJ, Ben Simmons, Porzingis, etc. all could have contributed straight out of school. I bet most of their scouting reports said they were ready for the NBA.Ugh. Can’t think of a current player besides Lebron who was or would be a high level player in his first year out of HS. Neither of the top two ROY candidates were even in their second year out of HS.
They don't have to be high level, but it also hamstrings the league as a whole if there are a whole crop of guys using up 1st round pick salary cap slots and roster spots who don't get off the bench. Yes they develop in practice and via workouts, but that is a different type of development than in-game experience development. And while the star players will ultimately get plenty of game time, it certainly impacts the bench play. Do you want a guy like VanVleet with tons of game experience coming off your bench or a young JR Smith who may have been more talented but had no idea how to play in a game and has to learn on the fly?
I don't think it is a coincidence that the quality of the NBA generally sucked in the early 2000s while the great flock of straight-from-high-school were in their prime and has increased tremendously as those guys have phased out.
This is either going to strengthen college basketball or kill it.
Either would be preferable to what we have right now. The last couple seasons/tournaments have been trash.
This is either going to strengthen college basketball or kill it.
Either would be preferable to what we have right now. The last couple seasons/tournaments have been trash.
but K's whole program is built on one and dones, that will not be fair to Duke
I think if they put something in place that requires a two year commitment if kids go to college, then there will at least be a little more continuity to the game rather than the revolving door. Plus coaches can plan a little better from a recruiting standpoint and manage rosters easier when they know at least the clock won't start after the first year.
Do you think players "learn to play the game" better in college, with inferior coaching and limited practice hours, or in the pros, with better coaching and unlimited practice?
I'm pretty sure K and Cal will be able to get by if the NBA takes the best few players from each recruiting class. Their greatest exposure, imo, is having a class lined up and then losing two or three guys to the NBA with no way to replace them.
but K's whole program is built on one and dones, that will not be fair to Duke
Coach K can & will adapt to whatever is out there. That is why he is the best college coach of all time and has won 5 national titles and been to 12 Final Fours. He won in the early 90's with 4 year players. He won in 2015 with one & dones. It won't matter as long as he is still coaching.
Thinking out loud here
NBA draft is expanded several more rounds, but it's expected (like baseball) that most kids go through the minor/G league for a year or two and a lot of kids wouldn't make it to the NBA
Signing day is before the NBA draft so kids commit to school before the draft
If a kid decided to go "pro" instead of school then the school gets docked that scholarship for a year and has to offer that player X years of free education to be used within X number of years (although they won't be able to play ball, just free school)
I'm sure there are a number of reasons this wouldn't work, but it'd be interesting and would definitely shake up recruiting if you thought a guy was one and done or was going to go right out of HS.
I think a change to how rookie contracts were structured/counted towards the cap would help with that. I’m not sure exactly what it would look like but you can create space and incentive for teams to send guys to the G-league
Interesting thought. Rookie contracts are similar and don't count towards the cap for two years? Puts each team on a level cap playing field. You know first contracts start counting in year 3 and plan accordingly. If a kid is really good and you want to extend them cost kicks in immediately.