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The Case Against Football

saltydeac said:
Interestingly my wife said she read a report last week that says girl's soccer has a higher % of concussions than football. Pretty frightening given the # of girls playing soccer nationwide and not surprising as I know our daughters have had 3 friends have concussions over last year from soccer. A couple of them missed school for well over a month suffering headaches regularly during that time. So clearly more of a sports wide issue than just FB.
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My daughter has suffered two concussions playing soccer. It's worse than girls ice hockey.
 
Lohengrin said:
I played youth football for four years from 5th through 8th grade and never suffered a head injury of any kind. I do remember our QB one year was hit by two kids on opposite sides and they cracked the [cheap] helmet off of his head and he was led off the field in tears.
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Punters rarely get head injuries.
 
saltydeac said:
Interestingly my wife said she read a report last week that says girl's soccer has a higher % of concussions than football. Pretty frightening given the # of girls playing soccer nationwide and not surprising as I know our daughters have had 3 friends have concussions over last year from soccer. A couple of them missed school for well over a month suffering headaches regularly during that time. So clearly more of a sports wide issue than just FB.
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It's my understanding that CTE and similar long-term brain trouble is caused by the continual pounding than it is by the handful of big concussion-type injuries.
 
Fair enough Juice, but I will say for one of the girls we knew who was a goalie she got hit hard twice in same game, so for many positions it is not just a one time event. And they have absolutely no protection. Not saying anywhere near the pounding of FB, but you have no protection and some of these club level players are incredibly aggressive and not afraid to put a lick on others.

They study also pointed out that young girl's necks and bodies are not built to take such hits like a young man's, so that added to the potential damage it was doing to young girls both to their heads as well as necks.
 
DeacMan said:
My daughter has suffered two concussions playing soccer. It's worse than girls ice hockey.
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Horrible. Happened to the daughter of some friends. Can’t imagine dealing with that as a parent.
 
I’m guessing protective headbands will become mandatory in youth soccer in the next decade.

Seems to make as much sense as requiring shin guards.
 
Are these soccer concussions from heading the ball, collisions, or both?
 
awaken said:
Are these soccer concussions from heading the ball, collisions, or both?
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I've seen both in soccer, but by far the larger cause is collisions in my viewing experience and most often it isn't even head to head collisions but rather just bodies hitting each other and players falling down.

Think about this. A sophomore in high school ice hockey can hit as hard as an NFL middle linebacker. There seem to be fewer concussions in ice hockey than soccer though - not that the sport is devoid of it.

One thing youth sports needs desperately is better referees and more stringent penalties associated with bullshit plays. Most games don't get out of control. But the one's that do can see several kids go out of action because the ref simply let's things go south. I've seen that happen several times over the years in both soccer and hockey.
 
lol, what a dumbass.

Fedora said he had talked to military personnel who had suggested the success of the United States military was due, in part, to the number of football players who went on to join the armed forces.
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Just phenomenal stuff from Fedora.

Love that he’s taking so much heat for his hardo comments.

FWIW, and I think I’m well documented on this, football (as we know it) is on borrowed time. I love football (well, I love wagering on football), but there is no question that it’s terrible on those that play it.
 
Oh, he talked to military personnel? 125 years after this:

Navy Midshipman (and later Admiral) Joseph Mason Reeves wore what is widely regarded as the first football helmet in the 1893 Army–Navy Game. He had been advised by a Navy doctor that another kick to his head would result in intellectual disability or even death, so he commissioned an Annapolis shoemaker to make him a helmet out of leather.
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The military is realizing it has its own CTE crisis as massive amounts of cases are showing up in veterans. Thousands have been concussed from explosives going off near them in their military careers. Fedora picks the wrong group to attach his football is all American as the military garbage.
 
DeacsATS said:
Just phenomenal stuff from Fedora.

Love that he’s taking so much heat for his hardo comments.

FWIW, and I think I’m well documented on this, football (as we know it) is on borrowed time. I love football (well, I love wagering on football), but there is no question that it’s terrible on those that play it.
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yep, it sure looks like it, and wouldn't you know it, just when Wake is starting to get decent at football
 
Columnist Ed Hardin ripped Fedora

Someone once said war is what happens when language fails.

Larry Fedora hasn't read that. The football and war coach at Carolina probably wouldn't understand it anyway.

Or worse, he would just deny it.

Fedora became a national story this afternoon when he said there is no link between football and concussions and that the fabric of our country is tied to the game of football, and both are going straight to hell.
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Fedora is entering his seventh season at UNC, coming off a 3-9 season that has a lot of Tar Heels worried about what comes next. The last thing he needed was to ram his head into a wall of facts that fly in the face of what he calls "common sense."
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But given several opportunities to walk back his comments about the decline of American culture and the sacred game of football, he doubled down. He questioned the research linking football with concussions. In fact, about an hour after completing his sessions with the media, he was apparently convinced by someone that he needed to address his own remarks to clarify his position. His earlier comments had already gone viral, and it wasn't going well. But he managed to say the exact same thing over again.

"I don't think it's been proven that the game of football causes CTE," Fedora said. "That's been out there, but we don't really know yet."
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War is hell. Football is a game. And CTE, as a proven fact, is linked to repeated blows to the head.

Larry Fedora waded into an issue on which he should be an expert, but he proved yet again to be nothing more than a football coach.
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Well, as if the losing isn't enough, that should be easy enough to recruit against.
 
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