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Report: Kavanaugh won’t commit to recusal from Trump/Mueller related matters

This guy lied under oath about participating in the torture memos. That should have killed his nomination.

He lied about not seeing stolen Dem memos. That should have killed his nomination.

He told Senators on both sides that he believes Roe is settled law. However, his writings say he believes otherwise.

Some say there 3-5 other lies he told to committee.

Now add the allegations from Dr. Ford. Basically every other nominee in history would have been taken down by now or done the honorable thing and step down.
 
I think it’s not a huge leap to think a traumatic sexual event had a role to play in future relationship issues. That’s pretty normal.

I think she may be completely political bringing it up now, but she also may want there to be consequences for her assailant as there seem to be consequences for her.
 
Nobody is calling for a criminal trial.

An investigation to try and corroborate allegations or as part of a background check is not a criminal trial.


In her interview with the WaPo she indicates something of the effects (nearer and long term) on her and pointed to that incident as contributing to her need for therapy in 2012.

Since WaPo is paywalled, I’ll link to this CBS story describing the interview: LINK.

Ford said she told no one about the incident until 2012, when she discussed it during a couples therapy session. The professor said she was being treated for long-term effects of the encounter which she described as a "rape attempt." The Post reviewed notes made by the therapist that included a description of the alleged incident but did not name Kavanaugh. Ford's husband told the paper he remembers her naming Kavanaugh as the aggressor in 2012.

Ford said the alleged incident "derailed me substantially for four or five years," impairing her relationships with men and contributing to post-traumatic stress symptoms over the long term.
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RJKarl said:
This guy lied under oath about participating in the torture memos. That should have killed his nomination.

He lied about not seeing stolen Dem memos. That should have killed his nomination.

He told Senators on both sides that he believes Roe is settled law. However, his writings say he believes otherwise.

Some say there 3-5 other lies he told to committee.

Now add the allegations from Dr. Ford. Basically every other nominee in history would have been taken down by now or done the honorable thing and step down.
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Kavanaugh also thinks Presidents should be immune from criminal investigations -- wonder why Trump wanted him? But it's only Dems playing politics by [clutches pearls] wanting to spend some time investigating a credible sex assault allegation. Despite his constant need to claim he is above the fray and the suckers who buy it, Wrangor is just as bad, or worse, than the rest of them.
 
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Deacfreak07 said:
I think it’s not a huge leap to think a traumatic sexual event had a role to play in future relationship issues. That’s pretty normal.

I think she may be completely political bringing it up now, but she also may want there to be consequences for her assailant as there seem to be consequences for her.
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She may also not want someone who did that to be a Supreme Court justice -- which is shocking to Republicans, I know.
 
Wrangor, can you explain this statement?

"the life that Kavanaugh has led as an adult does not line up with the accusation"
 
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In case it’s not clear, my post above was responding to this from Wragor

You assume that she was at marital counseling because of a sexual assualt 30 years prior. That is a giant leap in logic. She could have been at marital counseling for any number of reasons. Why did she bring it up? I don't know, probably because she had some sort of experience in the past that tends to be uncovered in counseling. This doesn't mean that the incident was the cause of her problems. Again - that is an assumption based on very limited evidence.

With regards to a criminal trial - that is exactly what she and the Democratic Senators are calling for.
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ConnorEl said:
Nobody is calling for a criminal trial.

An investigation to try and corroborate allegations or as part of a background check is not a criminal trial.


In her interview with the WaPo she indicates something of the effects (nearer and long term) on her and pointed to that incident as contributing to her need for therapy in 2012.

Since WaPo is paywalled, I’ll link to this CBS story describing the interview: LINK.
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So the FBI is going to investigate a job interview? Feinstein wants a full investigation, because that is the best chance to delay. It doesn't have anything to do with finding out the truth, be honest with yourself. The most delayed process possible is all Feinstein and the other D-Senators are looking for.

Like I said earlier, I honestly believe that Dr. Ford has had a traumatic experience, and it clearly has impaired her life. What is a giant leap is that there is any evidence to justify that Kavanaugh is the perpetrator. There are so many alternative possibilities that without further evidence the hunt for 'truth' is purposeless. If my son were in Kavanaugh's position I would hope that he wouldn't be branded a rapist simply because a single person labeled him so in the press and it was politically expedient for his business/political opposition to promote that narrative.
 
Good grief.

Yes, the FBI does investigations ALL THE TIME that are in no way a part of criminal investigation.
 
PhDeac said:
Wrangor, can you explain this statement?

"the life that Kavanaugh has led as an adult does not line up with the accusation"
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Pretty self explanatory. The women who know him back his character. He doesn't have a laundry list of accusations like a Trump, Clinton, etc.... This doesn't preclude that he could have committed a one time drunken event, but it is evidence to his character towards women over a long period of time, not simply an unverified accusation 35 years ago.
 
Doesn’t seem likely a person would be asking for an FBI investigation into their own false accusations.
 
Wrangor you don't think this nominee is damaged enough with this, and the previous lying, to be disqualified? What sets him apart from numerous other conservative pro-life judges who are clean?
 
Wrangor said:
This doesn't preclude that he could have committed a one time drunken event, but it is evidence to his character towards women over a long period of time, not simply an unverified accusation 35 years ago.
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you’re basically saying it does
 
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