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2018 NFL Season ends: Patriots win Superbowl!

Zero percent Belichick loses to a rookie Lamar Jackson
 
Interesting how many people are dismissing the Texans. They finished the year 10-2. Their two losses were in the final seconds at red-hot Philly, and by 3 to the Colts; so, Houston is in an revenge spot while the Colts have to go on the road and win again. Watson and their D has been getting healthier. Realize the Colts have been hot too, but the Texans are a dangerous team that seem out of the conversation for AFC contention. Have confidence in DeShaun (he has not thrown a pick since mid-November, and he has started to run a little too).
 
Is the AFC East any worse than the NFC East or NFC West over the past 10 years or so? It's better than the AFC South.
 
Interesting how many people are dismissing the Texans. They finished the year 10-2. Their two losses were in the final seconds at red-hot Philly, and by 3 to the Colts; so, Houston is in an revenge spot while the Colts have to go on the road and win again. Watson and their D has been getting healthier. Realize the Colts have been hot too, but the Texans are a dangerous team that seem out of the conversation for AFC contention. Have confidence in DeShaun (he has not thrown a pick since mid-November, and he has started to run a little too).

With both Fuller and Thomas out, opponents can double Hopkins to their hearts content, and their OL sucks. And their D is leaky on the back end. I think they're the least likely AFC team to get to the SB.

Bmoney, more likely it's LAC beating NE.
 
Is the AFC East any worse than the NFC East or NFC West over the past 10 years or so? It's better than the AFC South.

Every team in the NFC West has won at least 12 games at least once in the past six seasons and each team has won the division at least once since 2012. Two different NFC West teams have been to the Super Bowl in that period.
 
Is the AFC East any worse than the NFC East or NFC West over the past 10 years or so? It's better than the AFC South.

The AFC East minus the Pats is definitely worse than any of those divisions. The Giants and Eagles have both won SBs. Same with the Seahawks. The Cards and Niners made the SB. The AFC South is weak but the Colts and Titans have had good stretches.
 
I found a site that lists out of division records for each team. So if you take out the best team in each division these are the combined records of the remaining three. https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/trend/win_trends/non_division?range=yearly_2018

Since 2014
AFC East - 67-85
NFC East - 73-81 - minus Philly
AFC South - 63-95 - minus Houston
NFC West - 68-86 - minus Seattle

Since 2012
AFC East - 94-118
NFC East - 99-116 - minus Philly
AFC South - 83-137 - minus Indy
NFC West - 108-111 - minus Seattle

Since 2010
AFC East - 123-151
NFC East - 135-147 - Philly
AFC South - 110-172 - Tennessee
NFC West - 133-148 - Seattle

So a little behind the NFC East, by about a game a year combined. Behind the NFC West in the past 10 years, but pretty on par recently. And ahead of the AFC South in every respect.

The other three divisions have clearly had more fluctuation between teams but based on average records, I wouldn't say the Pats have had a much easier time in division than the champs in those others.
 
What's been the best 2nd team in the AFC East... the Sanchez Jets?
 
Yeah def. No one else really close.

I do feel like the Bills and Jets may finally be poised to emerge
 
What's been the best 2nd team in the AFC East... the Sanchez Jets?

by far

the NFL went to 32 teams for the 2002 season; since then, 22 of the 32 teams have reached a conference championship game

the 10 that have not are:
(2 apiece from 3 divisions)

Bills and Dolphins - the Jets made it to the AFC championship game twice as wild-cards, losing both times (Pats went out in first round both years)
Browns and Bengals - but the Steelers and Ravens have both been to at least 2 Super Bowls
Cowboys and Redskins - the Giants and Eagles have both been to at least 2 Super Bowls

so every other division has at least 3 teams that have reached the conference championship game at least once

(4 others from 4 other divisions)
Chiefs
Texans (new in 2002)
Rams
Lions
 
With both Fuller and Thomas out, opponents can double Hopkins to their hearts content, and their OL sucks. And their D is leaky on the back end. I think they're the least likely AFC team to get to the SB.

Bmoney, more likely it's LAC beating NE.

Yeah I agree with this. Houston hasn't really beaten anyone either -- they got the Colts when the Colts weren't great early, and the same for the Cowboys pre-Amari. And both those wins were in OT. Otherwise?? A solid performance against the Browns but not much to be too impressed by.

Deshaun is great and underrated, but it seems to me he and Hopkins are keeping that team afloat
 
Yeah I agree with this. Houston hasn't really beaten anyone either -- they got the Colts when the Colts weren't great early, and the same for the Cowboys pre-Amari. And both those wins were in OT. Otherwise?? A solid performance against the Browns but not much to be too impressed by.

Deshaun is great and underrated, but it seems to me he and Hopkins are keeping that team afloat

Watson and Hopkins are the only people keeping the O afloat presently. If they can address the OL and secondary in the offseason, they could be great if healthy next year. Defenses have to pay attention to Fuller, who is a legit homerun threat. So yeah, they could be 1 good draft away from a SB contender because they have 2 guys on O and D that every opponent has to game plan around.
 
Buckets and the AFC east is the TheReff and the SEC of the NFL. TheReff loves the SEC conference because it makes him feel good that the only reason his team sucks is because it’s in such a dominating conference that always wins. Buckets hates the AFC East because it makes him feel bad that his team isn’t in the conference and the only reason his team must suck is because it’s in such a hard conference while subsequently overlooking things like Belichick’s shits have more football smarts than Rivera.
 
I don't follow gambling at all, but what's the reasoning behind Houston being a home dog to the Colts? Is it a "black QB vs. neckbeard Jesus" thing or something legitimate?
 
I don't follow gambling at all, but what's the reasoning behind Houston being a home dog to the Colts? Is it a "black QB vs. neckbeard Jesus" thing or something legitimate?

Indy being 9-1 in their last 10, Houston being without Fuller, Thomas and maybe Coutee and Houston's OL sucking.
 
Don't think the Colts are actually favored anywhere, generally looks like it's either a pick or Houston -1.

Advanced stats seem to like the Colts more, Football Outsiders' DVOA that is weighted more toward recent games has the Colts #4 and the Texans #13
 
Don't think the Colts are actually favored anywhere, generally looks like it's either a pick or Houston -1.

Advanced stats seem to like the Colts more, Football Outsiders' DVOA that is weighted more toward recent games has the Colts #4 and the Texans #13

yeah - I have a subscription to their lines - they have Indy +0.3
 
Houston wins if Miller tops 100 yards. Or at least gets close to it.
 
one thing's for sure, the Capt. Andrew Luck Twitter account is dumb as hell. just saw a WaPo article where they asked Civil War experts how authentic the references are.
 
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