sailordeac
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Neither Warren nor Bernie can beat DJT.
But, but, but one's a whiney phoney and the other is a socialist. Are you sure you don't want to reconsider?
Neither Warren nor Bernie can beat DJT.
But, but, but one's a whiney phoney and the other is a socialist. Are you sure you don't want to reconsider?
But, but, but one's a whiney phoney and the other is a socialist. Are you sure you don't want to reconsider?
I think there are current Trump supporters who could be eroded by a candidate who was as fiscally strong, but more palatable socially.
I think Trump is terrible and would never consider voting for him. I am not a republican. However, I have to hand it to the GOP in that they tend to rally around their nominee. The traditional "moneyed" republicans wouldn't come out and vote for Trump if the alternative was palatable to them. Warren and Sanders are not palatable to them. Thus, if either is the nominee, the GOP will rally again and Trump will win, assuming he is the nominee. Just my opinion.
Color me shocked to see Sailor again using "whiney" language when referencing a woman. Simply a misogynistic piece of shit.
I think the thinking here is that the Democrats are going to win in 2020 regardless of this vote and they might as well run as progressive a candidate as they can find in order to push policy. The problem with this is that it is only going to deepen the political divides in this country, create additional unrest, and failed compromises. It is also playing with fire in that they might lose to Trump in 2020.
Why should Democrats care about the fragile feelings of Trump supporters?
I think everybody should care about the current state America's in and want us to have greater unity and togetherness. A decade ago there was political disagreements and discourse, but the divisions were nothing like what we are seeing today.
I agree with you that 15-20% of the most adamant and loud trump supporters are lost causes and can generally get fucked, but that doesn't mean the rest of the country has to hate each other. I can tell you that nominating and electing a socialist isn't going to make core societal divides in this country any better. You might get some nice rhetoric, but the end game is going to be a less united country.
I think everybody should care about the current state America's in and want us to have greater unity and togetherness. A decade ago there was political disagreements and discourse, but the divisions were nothing like what we are seeing today.
I agree with you that 15-20% of the most adamant and loud trump supporters are lost causes and can generally get fucked, but that doesn't mean the rest of the country has to hate each other. I can tell you that nominating and electing a socialist isn't going to make core societal divides in this country any better. You might get some nice rhetoric, but the end game is going to be a less united country.
I think everybody should care about the current state America's in and want us to have greater unity and togetherness. A decade ago there was political disagreements and discourse, but the divisions were nothing like what we are seeing today.
I agree with you that 15-20% of the most adamant and loud trump supporters are lost causes and can generally get fucked, but that doesn't mean the rest of the country has to hate each other. I can tell you that nominating and electing a socialist isn't going to make core societal divides in this country any better. You might get some nice rhetoric, but the end game is going to be a less united country.
The reason that Dems hate Pubs is because the overwhelming vast majority of the 80-85% that you don’t consider to be “lost causes” have jumped into bed with the Nazis and the tubes and everyone else. I dont claim to speak for al other liberals and Dems, but I don’t want to be united with anyone who supports Trump. If you think Trump has done a good job as president or is a good human being, fuck you.