2020 Democratic Presidential Nominees

[myDeaconmyhand]

So you haven’t listened to PSA. Just admit it.

Oh my God dude. You ask me these questions that you already know the answer to - you're just fishing. You must want to argue with me. Why dont you just admit that you love drama. My post was about Biden. I made a small aside about PSA and you ran with that because...

anyway... if Joe Biden does actually run, which I dont think he will, it's going to be interesting to see if his popularity stands up to scrutiny.

 

[PhDeac]

I asked the question because I didn’t know the answer. I’ve only seen one post last week or so where you mentioned PSA. I wondered what your issue is. You gave an inaccurate answer so I asked a follow up question. You evaded it. So I assume you don’t know what you’re talking about.

 

[myDeaconmyhand]

I asked the question because I didn’t know the answer. I’ve only seen one post last week or so where you mentioned PSA. I wondered what your issue is. You gave an inaccurate answer so I asked a follow up question. You evaded it. So I assume you don’t know what you’re talking about.

"Inaccurate" my ass. Just because you apparently stan those vanilla establishment shills doesnt make you a definitive expert. Your opinion on the Jons is just as subjective as mine. If you were any more condescending I would think you were a professor or something.

 

[PhDeac]

Except they’re not establishment shills. It’s ok to admit you don’t listen to them.

What is “stan?”

 

[myDeaconmyhand]

Except they’re not establishment shills.

What is “stan?”

They absolutely are. They literally all came from John Kerry and Obama's staff. "Stan" is from the Eminem song

 

[ImTheCaptain]

So...do you listen to PSA or no, then

 

[RChildress107]

"Inaccurate" my ass. Just because you apparently stan those vanilla establishment shills doesnt make you a definitive expert. Your opinion on the Jons is just as subjective as mine. If you were any more condescending I would think you were a professor or something.

It’s subjective, sure, but not equally so. Ph and I’s subjective opinions of the PSA guys are based on the things they are saying on their show week in and week out. Your’s appears to be based on which campaigns they worked on a decade ago.

I kind of get the Bernie Bro desire to weed out all “centrist” heresy with an iron fist (though it would help if they didn’t turn a blind eye when it came to Bernie). In the long run it will produce more well rounded progressive candidates.

I don’t get the Bernie Bro desire to build a bubble designed to keep all that alleges heresy from reaching their tender ears.

 

[Louis Gossett Jr]

If pasts matter so much and not what they talk about and support now then MDMH should probably sit out the progressive movement as well. Nothing like a failed white male from an elite private university with limited diversity and outrageous tuition to champion the progressive cause.

 

[myDeaconmyhand]

It’s subjective, sure, but not equally so. Ph and I’s subjective opinions of the PSA guys are based on the things they are saying on their show week in and week out. Your’s appears to be based on which campaigns they worked on a decade ago.

I kind of get the Bernie Bro desire to weed out all “centrist” heresy with an iron fist (though it would help if they didn’t turn a blind eye when it came to Bernie). In the long run it will produce more well rounded progressive candidates.

I don’t get the Bernie Bro desire to build a bubble designed to keep all that alleges heresy from reaching their tender ears.

The fact is that I'm plenty familiar with that podcast and you just don't like my opinion. If you also listened to: Intercepted, Democracy Now!, Trillbilly Workers Party, Chapo Trap House, or Dead Pundit Society, you might actually be familiar with leftist opinions to compare it to. Now I dont KNOW that you don't listen to anything left of PSA, but based on yours and PHs smarmy condescension (very on brand with PSA) I sincerely doubt you do.

 

[Shooshmoo]

Cool podcast screenshot bro. I recommend the new Conan O'Brien podcast, it's very good.

 

[Shooshmoo]

Is it possible to be too woke? I mean, so woke that only like 4 people know what the hell you are talking about. I stan for Chris Hemsworth, by the way.

 

[Biff Tannen]

Is it okay on this board to criticize someone just because they're a WASP ? Asking as a WASP.

 

[myDeaconmyhand]

Nothing like a failed white male from an elite private university with limited diversity and outrageous tuition to champion the progressive cause.

That's interesting. I have a very good life - healthy baby, good dog, comfortable house, excellent wife. I don't remember complaining about my life on this board, except for posts about my parents health care, or my students loans. I consider myself very fortunate. Since you want to make this thread about me, exactly what about me is a failure?

 

[WFUtoUSC]

So you’ve never listened to Pod Save America is what you’re saying. None of them went to Harvard and they are consistently supportive of most radical political and social changes the left is pushing for.

And only one of them is a WASP

We got a PSA fan here! Anyway, maybe they're Catholic or Jewish, same white country club POV. I'm well aware of the bullshit corporatist incrementalism they are selling you as "radical" and "progressive". I'm aware of United States of Health and Medicare Extra (for all!) Imagine teaming up with Bill Frist and calling your plan progressive. Beyond policy, PSA is trite as hell - whew, a group of beltway bros constantly flummoxed by Trump. Imagine if Boss Hogg had a podcast all about them rascally Duke boys. No thanks.

Today I learned: the Pod Save America hosts aren't progressive enough. I'm genuinely surprised to hear this opinion.

 

[ImTheCaptain]

what subculture uses stan?

 

[myDeaconmyhand]

Today I learned: the Pod Save America hosts aren't progressive enough. I'm genuinely surprised to hear this opinion.

Dont worry, tunnels posters are continually amazed to hear that their politics aren't as far left as they imagine them to be. If you're on twitter, i've got some verified accounts I can recommend following, Black Socialists of America @blacksocialists is a good place start.

 

[BarcaDeac]

what subculture uses stan?

The youts

 

[Biff Tannen]

what subculture uses stan?

Afghani

 

[ImTheCaptain]

MDMH could learn some lessons from Strick

 

[RChildress107]

The fact is that I'm plenty familiar with that podcast and you just don't like my opinion. If you also listened to: Intercepted, Democracy Now!, Trillbilly Workers Party, Chapo Trap House, or Dead Pundit Society, you might actually be familiar with leftist opinions to compare it to. Now I dont KNOW that you don't listen to anything left of PSA, but based on yours and PHs smarmy condescension (very on brand with PSA) I sincerely doubt you do.

So you don’t listen to PSA.

It’s not even a policy podcast. You act like they are out there shilling some third way centrist bullshit. Do their individual policy views align with mine? No. Are they in the Vanguard of the progressive movement? No. But they support the turn to the left of the Democratic Party and to the extent they think AOC and others are too far to the left they don’t spend much of any time talking about it.

Look, we get it, Bernie Bros hate the PSA guys because they were critical of how Bernie and his supporters handled losing the primary. Maybe just say that and move on.