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State's next coach?

ryalaman said:
If you want to argue that Maryland didn't capitalize on the natty, then yeah, you're right. We didn't. But that's a world different than saying that a program that hadn't won the ACC in 20 years and was perpetually on the bubble was past UMD as the 3rd best program in the ACC. That's just patently insane. They were clearly worse on every level.
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Yeah, except in the conference standings, which kinda matters a little.

For all the pointing at banners at short-term peaks of success, they seem to have done very little good anywhere in the ACC in the long term -- Wake under Odom, Georgia Tech under Hewitt, Maryland under Williams. State had a better, more consistent foundation than any of them did after their brief spike of achievement that earned them nothing in the long term. State won 28 ACC games in those last 3 years, while Maryland won only 22 and didn't finish above .500 or 6th place in any of them.

Regardless of what State fans may have thought, 5 straight tourney berths proves pretty tough to achieve and IMO, the only thing Sendek needed to put the floor in under the success on the court was the fans to be behind him.

Current schools with more than 5 straight NCAA tournament berths under the same coach in a Big Six conference, just to show how tough it is.

Streak Team Conference
22 Kansas Big 12 (Self has 8)
16 Duke ACC
14 Michigan St. Big Ten
13 Texas Big 12
13 Wisconsin Big Ten
10 Pittsburgh Big East (Dixon has 7)
7 Villanova Big East
6 Tennessee SEC (Obviously ignominious now)

That's it. Williams never got past 2 in a row after his once-a-career group left.

How many of those have won a game in each of the last 3 years in the tournament, as State did in its last 3 years under Sendek? Not Tennessee. Not Texas. Not Villanova. Not Michigan State.

Obviously no one's stupid enough to think this means NC State was a better program than UCLA, Arizona, North Carolina...but it does mean that 5 straight berths is nothing to sneeze at.

And Duke was down right after Sendek left, so it's not like Maryland didn't have its chance to take advantage. It's been a decade now...you can't live on a Final Four run forever. Ask Paul Hewitt. And Maryland hasn't accomplished anything more since Sendek left than they did in his last 3 years at State. If State had stayed where it was and putting up top 4 finishes like they did in 4 of 5 years, which would you say would be better? So therefore, which was better then? The answer is obvious and if not for 2009-2010, Williams might be out of a job right now.
 
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I'm beginning to think Pearl may be the only person crazy enough to take this job and the only one capable of salvaging anything at State. He's got the personality and the name recognition to get some buzz going from the start which is something state has practically never had in the last ten years. I was taking a quiz on espn about teams with multilple ncaa basketball titles and people were commenting about how they kept missing NC State. Nobody outside of this state realizes that they are a historic basketball program. They need to shake things up big time. Bruce wouldn't be afraid of K or Roy and could definitely get recruits. His absolute lack of half court coaching and knack for getting insane athletes would drive K crazy and probably give him a tough game every year. State needs Pearl almost as much as Pearl needs State.
 
Nobody realizes Oklahoma A&M was a national power either. Those championships are about as relevant as each other at this point.

I agree that at this point State would be best to hire some wild and crazy guy. Pearl, Floyd, Eustachy, Worldwide Wes, Nick Nolte, someone. Majerus would be a publicity-grabber for a different reason and plus is one heckuva coach. Need a really top-notch recruiting staff though.
 
Deacsfan27 said:
Food for thought...DINO GAUDIO.
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It would continue their trend of hiring retreads from the ACC.

Can somebody remind me why they hired Debbie Yow again? It was known that she was tainted from the business with Gary before they hired her.
 
Pearl is virtually unhireable. Dude got a show-cause letter from the NCAA and was suspended by his own AD for half the conference season for chrissakes.

No high-major will touch that guy until he rebuilds his reputation at a low to mid-major for at least 2-3 years, IMHO.
 
So how many coaches that are not interested in the State job has State not offered?
 
PhDeac said:
It would continue their trend of hiring retreads from the ACC.

Can somebody remind me why they hired Debbie Yow again? It was known that she was tainted from the business with Gary before they hired her.
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The new Chancellor got a search firm to give him 10 names. He disregarded those names and hired her out of the blue iirc
 
She was hired because of her sister. At the time I guess it was a nice story, but now State fans are certainly seeing the folly. I will never understand why they named their spring game the "Kay Yow Spring Game." Not only is it not women's basketball, it's not even BASKETBALL AT ALL. Why not at least name a joint men's/women's midnight madness or whatever after her?
 
KidA23 said:
Pearl is virtually unhireable. Dude got a show-cause letter from the NCAA and was suspended by his own AD for half the conference season for chrissakes.

No high-major will touch that guy until he rebuilds his reputation at a low to mid-major for at least 2-3 years, IMHO.
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Pearl is a crook. Historically State has done very well with crooks.
 
So what ridiculously underwhelming coach will State settle for? Will they out-[Redacted] us?
 
Really wouldn't be surprised to see Miles either.

The question is when will State stop embarrassing itself and target candidates who may ACTUALLY want to be the coach.
 
When your AD writes and distributes a letter explaining why your job is so terrible and nobody wants to coach your team you lose the ability to make fun of any school. Period.
 
WRS said:
When your AD writes and distributes a letter explaining why your job is so terrible and nobody wants to coach your team you lose the ability to make fun of any school. Period.
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8-24, 1-15 in the ACC (with multiple 20+ point losses to our sorry team), little hope of recovery, even less talent (compared to our top 5 recruiting class and solid talent around it), and exactly zero coaching ability (plus that coach also has a tendency to run off talent). At least even a bad coach would do better with our very talented team will make the tournament. He'd have to be say, worst record in NBA history and zero college experience not to. Wake on the other hand, well, you don't have anything to fall back on



See, it's not that hard. Until all our players leave (we are nc state so it'll probably happen) there's still mocking opportunities
 
Mention on the State board of Donnie Tyndall, head coach of Morehead State. I clicked on his bio from the official Morehead State website and this is his photo. Classic:

Tyndall-W.jpg
 
tintinisahottie said:
8-24, 1-15 in the ACC (with multiple 20+ point losses to our sorry team), little hope of recovery, even less talent (compared to our top 5 recruiting class and solid talent around it), and exactly zero coaching ability (plus that coach also has a tendency to run off talent). At least even a bad coach would do better with our very talented team will make the tournament. He'd have to be say, worst record in NBA history and zero college experience not to. Wake on the other hand, well, you don't have anything to fall back on



See, it's not that hard. Until all our players leave (we are nc state so it'll probably happen) there's still mocking opportunities
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sounds like this guy needs a custom title from the mods.
 
I cannot claim credit for this because its a different poster who infiltrated packpride premium. But this is what's going on in their chats.

[FOXsport] Tubby would come and keep the same staff we have. he is great guys and loves NC.
plaed at High Point and all love him in the D 1 Coaches rank
[sjaywolf] isnt tubby black?
[BoxwoodWolf] black'ish
 
Love that their next tier of candidates includes Tubby, Frank Martin, Mark Turgeon and Scott Drew. This could take a while.
 
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