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CBM: X-Men '97; Deadpool and Wolverine trailer

Three episodes into Batwoman, my fears from the crossover have been confirmed, but there's hope. Ruby Rose has zero charisma as Kate Kane and that hurts the show. But there's enough promise in the rest of the characters, especially the lead villain, to keep me watching. They took a lot of elements from Arrow and The Flash that it makes it tough for the show to stand on its own.
 
PhDeac said:
Deep as in good or deep as in known?
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Deep as in, I'm not sure. Compelling maybe? Interesting?

I think in a head to head match up, Spider-Man's rogues gallery would wipe the floor with Batman's if for no other reason than they have super powers and most of Batman's don't. The things that make Batman's villains a challenge however are the moral dilemmas and decision making they make Batman partake in. Save these people or capture the bad guy. That wouldn't work against villains.

It's hard to imagine a more interesting villain than the Joker although Norman Osborne is a pretty complex character himself. I think it's still Batman though.
 
CBM: CW shows return; Watchmen premieres on HBO

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I haven't had a chance to watch the premiere, but wow is there some fascist backlash in the user reviews on Metacritic. So much hate.
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To be expected. The lead actress is a black woman, the show starts with a reenactment of the 1921 Tulsa race riots in which white people destroyed a wealthy black community and killed dozens, maybe hundreds of black people, and white supremacists are the villains.
 
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PhDeac said:
To be expected. The lead actress is a black woman, the show starts with a reenactment of the 1921 Tulsa race riots in which white people destroyed a wealthy black committee and killed dozens, maybe hundreds of black people, and white supremacists are the villains.
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I was shocked to see a realistic depiction of 1921, down to how disaffected whites used decommissioned WWI planes to indiscriminately bomb the hub of black commerce in the US. Episode treated Tulsa like the utterly brutal, one-sided invasion that it was.
 
After the mediocre (being generous) movie, I was a bit wary of the Watchmen series but that was misplaced. What a fantastic premiere, basically all you could ask in an opener - world building that draws you in and makes you want more. I'm ALL in for this.

The cherry on top was the musical score. The great Trent Reznor fits the mood perfectly.

I'll have to add re-reading Watchmen on my to-do list, I had forgotten about the specifics of the squid rain that happens in the show.
 
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I'll have to add re-reading Watchmen on my to-do list, I had forgotten about the specifics of the squid rain that happens in the show.
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I'm pissed. I lent the book to a friend awhile back and have no recollection of who that friend is now.
 
Hey 90s comics fans, remember the 2nd most 90s comics company (after Image)? Here's their first movie:



Valiant apparently has a plan for a cinematic universe.

My prediction - more like the "Dark Universe" (remember that?) than the MCU.
 
DeacHead said:
After the mediocre (being generous) movie, I was a bit wary of the Watchmen series but that was misplaced. What a fantastic premiere, basically all you could ask in an opener - world building that draws you in and makes you want more. I'm ALL in for this.

The cherry on top was the musical score. The great Trent Reznor fits the mood perfectly.

I'll have to add re-reading Watchmen on my to-do list, I had forgotten about the specifics of the squid rain that happens in the show.
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I've said this before but I thought that the movie was great. Not perfect, but pretty good, especially for its time. There were a few silly scenes like the sex scene in the owlship, but the murder of the Commedian, the Rorshach jailbreak, Cudrup as Dr. Manhattan, Carla Gugino, were all p great. It was the perfect material match for Snyder's style.

There is no squid rain in the book, but Ozy fakes a giant alien squid attack in downtown Manhattan that kills a bunch of people and stops WWIII (the squid is replaced by an explosion created by ozy to frame Dr. Manhattan in the movie).

I would guess that the squid rain in the series is more fake stuff created by Ozy to perpetuate that the attack was 'real'?

1st ep/pilot was amazing, 2nd ep slowed down a bit. It's no batwoman, but I am in.
 
There’s reporting that Avengers 5 will be released in 2023.
 
Save the date!

 
Man that’s a long wait.

Saw that the Green Lantern show on HBO Max will tie into the Justice League films but not for awhile.
 
If you want to dive more into the Watchmen world, they have some supplements online, the "Petey-pedia" similar to what Lost did.

https://www.hbo.com/peteypedia

This past Sunday... so good. I'm amazed at how well this show ties in with the old comics without requiring new viewers to be familiar with the original series.
 
Agreed. My wife enjoyed the first episode of watchmen and then tried to research the world/orig story and got confused. She gave up her research and is still enjoying the show.
 
She could just read the comic.
 
Scorsese elaborates on his "theme park" comment:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/04/opinion/martin-scorsese-marvel.html

He seems to be making an argument I've heard my entire life. Back in the 80s it was sequels and action movies that were crowding out the auteurs' movies. Since then the same thing has been said just what's been added to "X is killing movie creativity" has expanded some (e.g. reboots).
 
he has a point, to an extent but then he goes super bonkers and talks about the old Hollywood Studio system as an example of how art can be lifted up when Scorsese was a major part of the movement that blew apart that system built to make safe, profitable pictures.
 
DeacHead said:
Scorsese elaborates on his "theme park" comment:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/04/opinion/martin-scorsese-marvel.html

He seems to be making an argument I've heard my entire life. Back in the 80s it was sequels and action movies that were crowding out the auteurs' movies. Since then the same thing has been said just what's been added to "X is killing movie creativity" has expanded some (e.g. reboots).
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ImTheCaptain said:
he has a point, to an extent but then he goes super bonkers and talks about the old Hollywood Studio system as an example of how art can be lifted up when Scorsese was a major part of the movement that blew apart that system built to make safe, profitable pictures.
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It's also a bit hard to take his opinion on the difference between the two all that seriously just as he releases a Martin Scorsese Cinematic Universe film on Netflix that relies heavily on cutting edge special effects via de-aging technology. I'm pumped to watch The Irishman, but let's call it what it is.
 
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