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The 2019 College Football Thread ! LSU NATIONAL CHAMPIONS ! CLEMSON SUCKS !!!!!!!!!!!

PhDeac said:
Who is they?

The playoffs would be 6, 7, or 8 teams depending on how many qualify.
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Oh okay. Now I understand that your changing one one variable doesn't relate to the current scenario and that you've just proposed the a similar college football playoff scenario that others have proposed a gazillion times in the past, but also might give App State or Memphis a shot at LSU depending on how the committee members employ the eye test. I also like how the number of participants changes yearly too. Nice wrinkle.

Congrats on designing a worse system than the one we already have.
 
Assuming the same number of teams deserve a shot every year is pretty weird. It's fine when you're setting the bar at 68 after 30+ games, but 4 after 12 or 13 games? That's pretty dumb.
 
#Expand/ContractThePlayoffsAnnually

Pretty sure that hash tag is gaining steam on Twitter right now. Probably should be applied to the NFL too. Oh wait, they 16 games, which is more than 13.

Half the teams in the NBA playoffs don't deserve a shot at the championship. Maybe they'll cut the opening series out of that.

Don't get me wrong, I'm fine with at 6 or 8 team playoff, every year. But it should be the best teams. Not Cincinnati.
 
What's the case for including multiple teams from one conference in the CFP playoff? If two SEC teams were worthy of playing for the title either they would have already played each other in the regular season or already played each other in the championship. Give another team a shot at playing for the title. One of those teams already blew theirs.
 
I don't think I've ever heard anyone make a case for a playoff format where the field size isn't fixed. And now that I've heard it, I see why nobody has ever pushed for it.

5 P5 champs, highest ranked G5 champ, 2 highest ranked at large. Gives the little guys a seat at the table every year. Doesn't penalize P5s if the 2 best teams happen to be in the same conference in a given year. Simple and straightforward.
 
PhDeac said:
What's the case for including multiple teams from one conference in the CFP playoff? If two SEC teams were worthy of playing for the title either they would have already played each other in the regular season or already played each other in the championship. Give another team a shot at playing for the title. One of those teams already blew theirs.
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Doesn't apply i/r/t Alabama this year, but if you lose by one score on the road to an excellent team that you were unlucky enough to draw away then I think you merit another chance. Pretty harsh to call such a loss "blowing it."

Always thought TCU deserved a chance in 2014 since their only blemish was a 3 point road loss to 11-1 Baylor
 
PhDeac said:
What's the case for including multiple teams from one conference in the CFP playoff? If two SEC teams were worthy of playing for the title either they would have already played each other in the regular season or already played each other in the championship. Give another team a shot at playing for the title. One of those teams already blew theirs.
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Really ? Alabama and Georgia will not play this year.

Ohio State could lose to Penn State, Minnesota could lose to Iowa and Wisconsin and then beat Penn State again in the B1GCG and go to your playoff instead of tOSU. Wouldn't you think LSU, tOSU, and Alabama are probably all better than Minnesota under that scenario ?

Did America really need to see more of that 10-3 UW PAC12 champion that beat #17 Utah last year in a championship game by a score of 10-3 ? BTW, #17 is the highest ranked team UW actually beat last year. Oregon was also #17 when they lost to UW, finished unranked.
 
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timthedeac said:
I don't think I've ever heard anyone make a case for a playoff format where the field size isn't fixed. And now that I've heard it, I see why nobody has ever pushed for it.

5 P5 champs, highest ranked G5 champ, 2 highest ranked at large. Gives the little guys a seat at the table every year. Doesn't penalize P5s if the 2 best teams happen to be in the same conference in a given year. Simple and straightforward.
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Yep. Have agreed with this format for a couple years.
 
Putting aside who we think should make the playoff, I'd give Alabama a lot better odds of actually making the playoff than a lot of articles I see that are writing them off already.

- They need LSU, Ohio State, and Clemson to win out. That looks very possible. It would mean Georgia and Penn State have 2 losses. And it would mean Minnesota is at best a 1-loss non conference champ. Minnesota could also lose to Wisconsin or Iowa.

- They need Baylor and OU each to lose at least once more. Baylor and OU play each other next week and, if they both get there, the Big 12 CG. Considering the scares they both had last weekend, Baylor vs Texas and OU vs TCU and Bedlam aren't givens either. Could easily see B12 eliminating itself.

- They need one of Oregon or Utah to lose and then beat the other in the P12CG. This may actually be the most likely thing to keep Bama out of the playoff. Hard to see a loss on Oregon's schedule before the P12CG. Utah's biggest test may be UCLA.
 
BiffTannen said:
Really ? Alabama and Georgia will not play this year.

Ohio State could lose to Penn State, Minnesota could lose to Iowa and Wisconsin and then beat Penn State again in the B1GCG and go to your playoff instead of tOSU. Wouldn't you think LSU, tOSU, and Alabama are probably all better than Minnesota under that scenario ?

Did America really need to see more of that 10-3 UW PAC12 champion that beat #17 Utah last year in a championship game by a score of 10-3 ? BTW, #17 is the highest ranked team UW actually beat last year. Oregon was also #17 when they lost to UW, finished unranked.
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Alabama and Georgia would play if both were more worthy of playing for the title. What the hell is the SEC Championship Game for if it doesn't determine the best SEC team?
 
I'm interested in seeing where they put Minnesota and Penn State. I get things change, however Minnesota was basically considered a scrub team even undefeated and they ranked Penn State ahead of Clemson.
 
while i thought the committee did a good job with the first ranking, the Minnesota win over Penn State is a swift kick in the nuts for them.
 
TownieDeac said:
lol remember when georgia lost to south carolina who lost to app who lost to georgia southern
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Or........Georgia, who lost to South Carolina, who lost to North Carolina, who lost to Wake Forest.

When we play UGA in the Orange Bowl, looks like we got this one.
 
PhDeac said:
Alabama and Georgia would play if both were more worthy of playing for the title. What the hell is the SEC Championship Game for if it doesn't determine the best SEC team?
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You're hung up on conference championships.

SECCG determines the conference champion. CFP as currently designed gives outsized weight to conference championships, but gives itself reasonable discretion.

You just said that 12 games isn't really enough to determine a deserving team, so you just throw up your hands and say I guess we'll have to take a confrence champion even though there are scenarios when you're leaving the best team in the country at home. Matching the best teams up is more likely to result in good football games than conferenct champions alone, especially when you give a G5-6 team an undeserved seat at the table or have a 3-loss P5 team backdoor their way in.
 
So you’re worried the process of determining the best team is going to leave the best team at home. How do you know who the best team is before you determine who the best team is? You’re stuck with a bunch of guesses rather than just having a straightforward process without ambiguity. Georgia is free to try to join the ACC if they don’t think they can win the SEC to make it to the championship.
 
tOSU already beat Cincy this year 42-0. Cincy needed a 4th quarter INT return and a FG in the final seconds to beat ECU. Hard to see any reason to put them in a 6 team playoff. If Minnesota is 12-0 heading into the Big 10 CG, and they lose to tOSU in OT. Hard for me to understand how you could rationally put Cincy in a 6 team playoff ahead of Minnesota.

Wild card teams and teams that finish 2nd or worse have won the title in every professional and college sport that has a playoff system. Not sure why a 2nd place team should be excluded in a college football playoff. If/when the playoff is expanded, it will go to 8, not 6. More games means more revenue, which is the goal.
 
Not taking a side here, but perhaps worth noting that UVA didn't even play in the ACC Basketball Championship game last season (Duke beat FSU), yet won the NCAA Tourney.

That shit happens all of the time in college hoops.

I understand there are less games in college football, and that single-game results should (in theory, at least) matter more.
 
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