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The 2019 College Football Thread ! LSU NATIONAL CHAMPIONS ! CLEMSON SUCKS !!!!!!!!!!!

BiffTannen said:
Bama needs to stop with the season openers against shitty ACC teams that just had their greatest quarterbacks ever drafted. That's for sure.
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When you play 4 non-conference games and Duke is the best of the 4, you've payed a horseshit non-conference schedule.
 
BTB said:
When you play 4 non-conference games and Duke is the best of the 4, you've payed a horseshit non-conference schedule.
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Scanning Minnesota's schedule for an even halfway decent OOC opponent. Nope.
 
lol remember when georgia lost to south carolina who lost to app who lost to georgia southern
 
BiffTannen said:
Bama trotted out an injured quarterback and outplayed everyone's #1 team in the second half of that football game. You can ignore that (along with every other Minnesota data point if you'd like), but the committe won't. Doesn't matter though. Minnesota and Penn State, with a win over tOSU and a B1G championship, would have a clear path to the playoff and Alabama does not.

Of course then you wonder what might happen to tOSU with a late season loss to a middling Minnesota or Penn State team, but that's why they make the big bucks.
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Tua's injury, which didn't prevent him from playing well, doesn't have anything to do with Bama's defense giving up a boatload of points at home. The bottom line is that Bama has played a crap schedule and lost at home to the only good team it's faced. That is not a resume that should be rewarded.
 
BiffTannen said:
Scanning Minnesota's schedule for an even halfway decent OOC opponent. Nope.
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Totally agree. Minnesota played a crap non-conf schedule. But even so, they still have played a better schedule than Bama which says a lot about Bama's schedule. And of course, Minnesota has an actual good win on its resume.
 
I think the SEC is slightly better but don’t know that it matters too much. Both conferences are pretty good. Meanwhile the AAC is about to pass the ACC in conference SP+ ratings and would be two points ahead if it weren’t for UConn who is unilaterally deflating their conference a comical amount
 
This is the problem with the committee releasing rankings throughout November. The purpose of the committee is to pick the 4 teams most deserving of playoff spots at the end of the season. The purpose of rankings is to identify which teams are the “best.” Rankings can be more subjective and rely more on the eye test where the committee needs to rely more on actual resumes.

Very few would pick Baylor or Minnesota over Bama on a neutral field, so it’s silly to criticize people who would rank Bama higher. But Baylor and Minnesota are more on track for a playoff spot than Bama at this point.
 
JuiceCrewAllStar said:
does anybody here think Minnesota beats Bama on a neutral field this weekend?
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No, but if that's the relevant analysis, Bama should just be given a season long bye to the final every year. Don't they have to beat someone good at some point?
 
timthedeac said:
This is the problem with the committee releasing rankings throughout November. The purpose of the committee is to pick the 4 teams most deserving of playoff spots at the end of the season. The purpose of rankings is to identify which teams are the “best.” Rankings can be more subjective and rely more on the eye test where the committee needs to rely more on actual resumes.

Very few would pick Baylor or Minnesota over Bama on a neutral field, so it’s silly to criticize people who would rank Bama higher. But Baylor and Minnesota are more on track for a playoff spot than Bama at this point.
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All the more reason for the playoff to only be conference champs.
 
Alabama's not gonna make the playoff unless they get a ton of help -- words that have been said before and they've found a way in, but still, probably arguing over something that's not gonna end up mattering.

PhDeac said:
All the more reason for the playoff to only be conference champs.
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Nah. Who wins a conference is dependent on too many factors -- who you get home/away, how many home/away conference games you have in some instances, who's in your division -- to go strictly by that
 
wsc8521s said:
Alabama's not gonna make the playoff unless they get a ton of help -- words that have been said before and they've found a way in, but still, probably arguing over something that's not gonna end up mattering.



Nah. Who wins a conference is dependent on too many factors -- who you get home/away, how many home/away conference games you have in some instances, who's in your division -- to go strictly by that
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Who ends up 12-0 or 11-1 is dependent on those factors too.
 
Bama's essentially eliminated from the SECCG because LSU will be prohibitive favorites in their last 3 games (including Arkansas how may be the worst Power V team in the country), and LSU could lose 1 and still hold the tie-breaker over Bama. Unless a conference champion has two losses, will be hard to take a non-conference winner, who didn't make the their conference championship game over a one loss conference champ like OU or the Pac 12 champ. Also, think there is some Bama fatigue and the committee has generally favored teams who play a legit OOC opponent which Bama did not do.

The path for two SEC teams is not with Bama, but for LSU to finish 12-0, and lose a close game to UGA in the SECCG. In that scenario, the SEC probably would get two as LSU would have more quality wins than anyone else (including a win over Bama) and only one loss.
 
Pilchard said:
Bama's essentially eliminated from the SECCG because LSU will be prohibitive favorites in their last 3 games (including Arkansas how may be the worst Power V team in the country), and LSU could lose 1 and still hold the tie-breaker over Bama. Unless a conference champion has two losses, will be hard to take a non-conference winner, who didn't make the their conference championship game over a one loss conference champ like OU or the Pac 12 champ. Also, think there is some Bama fatigue and the committee has generally favored teams who play a legit OOC opponent which Bama did not do.

The path for two SEC teams is not with Bama, but for LSU to finish 12-0, and lose a close game to UGA in the SECCG. In that scenario, the SEC probably would get two as LSU would have more quality wins than anyone else (including a win over Bama) and only one loss.
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Yeah, I've been saying this in some form for at least a couple of weeks, but it's clearer now that Alabama has lost.

I think Alabama's only chance is for LSU to win the SECCG convincingly and for everything else to turn to shit in the Big XII and PAC 12, while hoping for tOSU to win out. A Clemson loss would also greatly benefit Alabama but is also extremely unlikely. That's pretty much it for Alabama and it has nothing to do with where Utah or Minnesota are ranked this week.
 
BiffTannen said:
Which conferences ?
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P5 conference champs
ND ranked top 8
G6 conference champs ranked top 12

If ND isn't ranked top 8 and there are no G6 teams conference champs ranked top 12, the 6th team would be the highest ranked G6 team.
 
PhDeac said:
P5 conference champs
ND ranked top 8
G6 conference champs ranked top 12

If ND isn't ranked top 8 and there are no G6 teams conference champs ranked top 12, the 6th team would be the highest ranked G6 team.
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What if they are both ranked within those metrics? Who do you leave out?
 
uncaboref said:
What if they are both ranked within those metrics? Who do you leave out?
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Who is they?

The playoffs would be 6, 7, or 8 teams depending on how many qualify.

This would probably be a better way to specify it.

The playoffs will include the top 3 teams that meet the following criteria: Independent teams ranked top 8 and G6 teams ranked top 12. If no team meets those two criteria, then the highest ranked G6 team would be selected.

So if last week's rankings held and the highest ranked teams won their conferences, the CFP and seeds would be:
1 Ohio State
2 LSU
3 Clemson
4 Oregon
5 Oklahoma
6 Cincinnati

The first round matchups would be 3 Clemson vs. 6 Cincinnati and 4 Oregon vs. 5 Oklahoma.
The second round would be 1 Ohio State vs. lowest seeded 1st round winner and 2 LSU vs. highest seeded 1st round winner.
 
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