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Avengers Endfinity Wargame Mafia; MAFIA WINS

JuiceCrewAllStar said:
pretty sure we only used one special power the whole game, the vig on Damo
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Why did you use it on Damo? That was a massive play. He ended up being the most powerful civ.
 
gouda said:
Telling your team that you had been the cop would probably have been a good idea
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My cop power was insanely weak so I did not think there was any value in revealing it.

I started the game as a vanilla civ with the knowledge that both sides were searching for me. At the time, I did not know I would become a cop if found by the civs. The night Da/Gat found me was the night Thanos got the fourth stone. There were a bunch of possible outcomes but only one where I could actually use the power.
 
Ph knowing the mafia roles almost word for word was pretty close to HOF level worthy
 
1. Rommy - Black Panther: B+ Dickrode Eagles for far too long due to faulty assumption that Eagles would perform hits. Made the best civ special play of the game by jailing Juice, but didn't trust his read. All-around best pure mafia analysis in the game.

2. Bym - Black Widow, Soul Stone: C Was a solid B until he made some questionable late round mistakes that led to his death when keeping Stones out of mafia's hands was the only objective left for civs. Decent analysis during the game, nailed a couple mafia, but his dicksteps cost civs dearly.

3. Townie - Cull Obsidian: C+ Has played admirably in his first foray into mafia, but was a little hesitant at times this game and also stole the Groot claim from dv7. Nothing stands out as really bad but his role would have been helpful late if he could have avoided early heat.

4. Nonny - Vision: Incomplete Made one post, got hit N1, unlucky to have an Infinity Stone.

5. BBD - vanilla civ, Ant Man: A Did not get to participate much but ate a night hit as a vanilla civ so that's a job well done.

6. Da - Star Lord, Reality Stone: A- Was the driving force behind recruiting Shiny which ended up being correct. Played a solid civ game, never got into too much trouble. Did pretty well to prevent GAT from getting too much early heat. Good decision not to claim early.

7. SD3 - Proxima Midnight: B+ Played well beginning to end, though maybe relied too much on mafEagles clearing him. His claim was suspect though and really he skated a little too much on it. Also inadvertently revealed the unlynchable and snap powers of Thanos for no reason, but no one caught it.

8. Knight - Hawkeye: Incomplete: Should have godmodded this.

9. Juice - Thanos: A+ Took almost no heat at all, performed extremely well during rounds that were critical to mafia success, and also made the pure gut call to send SD3 to hit rommy when rommy planned on jailing Juice a second time. What a top class performance from Juice even if it was the most OP role I've ever written.

10. Redwing - Chitauri Soldier: A- Did a good job laying low and not getting into too much trouble. Unlucky to be caught visiting rommy N4 but actually benefited from mafia because no one could figure out why he was there.

11. WFU03 - vanilla civ, Falcon: B+ Stayed alive as a vanilla civ, but maybe would have been better off dying earlier as Ph was so far up his ass he could see out his mouth. Correctly criticized my game setup.

12. Mako - vanilla civ, Drax: C- for gameplay, A+ for humor Don't dumbtell. But if you're going to do it, at least be funny and entertaining. mako was.

13. Bern - Loki, Space Stone: B- Knew that he probably had a stone but didn't claim when he was going down, this led to Nebula immediately losing cop powers (which I messed up, but no harm done).

14. JMan - vanilla civ, Mantis: A Didn't do too much wrong, but got lynched early. Tough break. Reads were spot on per Eagles, so upgraded to an A.

15. Gouda - vanilla civ, Bucky Barnes: A- Didn't have time to really get his vanilla civ claws into the game during the few rounds he was alive, but did eat a night hit as a vanilla civ so that was good.

16. DV7 - Chitauri Soldier: D+ Still not Groot. Breadcrumbing Groot was bad. Was useful as a goon hitter/recruiter for a couple nights.

17. Eagles - Chitauri Soldier: C+ If he was in chatzy for N1, this game goes much differently. Good for mafia he wasn't. His truthteller claim was suspect, but he did have rommy bamboozled for a while so that's not a bad thing. Still knocking the rust off.

18. Ph - vanilla civ, Pepper Potts: B- Was so tunneled on WFU that it rendered him almost completely useless. Made some suspect judgments about game design that came back to haunt the civs. Didn't claim in an endgame. But he almost nailed the Proxima Midnight role so bonus points.

19. Toogs - Corvus Glaive: B He played OK for the most part, better maf chatter than in-thread player this game. Talked some sense into some maf night moves before things could go off the rails. Made the call to not RB with tim early which was a 100% correct call.

20. GAT - Gamora: B+ See Da. Some points docked for terribad entrance posts, but that's just GAT.

21. Ryala - Doctor Strange, Time Stone: A+ You deserved better. Great watches, great civ analysis, no backup when he needed it most.

22. Shiny - Nebula: B Made the correct call not to indicate recruitability because of potential death. Played a pretty civ game, lost the plot a bit towards the end with voting.

23. Tcc - vanilla civ, Shuri: B- Played civ...but voting wasn't his strong suit...tunneled on Ph almost as much as Ph tunneled on WFU...

24. GoalieMom - Capt. America: B+ Made some solid protection choices up to when rommy got night hit. Then protected SD3 with her 1-time angel the night she was hit. Sounded civ all game, but was a little too distrustful of claims, especially ryala's.

25. Damo - Thor: B Never really had a shot to get into the game, only was able to make one investigation. Seemed civ enough to get hit though, but that's not necessarily great when you're the GF hunter.

26. Numbers - vanilla civ, Rocket: B+ Didn't have much to do, but ate a night hit, unfortunately one that caused massive confusion.

27. Tim - Ebony Maw: C Played an extremely good game up to the point that he night posted twice after a majo night. Harsh, yes. Necessary, also yes. It was a judgment call, I felt bad doing it, but it had to happen.

28. Gooner - Mod: C I thought the game setup was fun and that the roles would be interesting, but I second guessed myself after original drafts had the civs be superpowered and the maf have 7 members. I neutered watcher/tracker to alternate and gave the maf an extra goon, but that was too much. Balance was incredbily maf heavy. Sorry civs.
 
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Toogs said:
Thanks for the fun game gooner!

Civs lost because bym made an honest mistake which led to his lynch. There are two lessons here:

1) civs make mistakes. Think before killing them
2) karma exists. Bym angle shot once severely and a few other times.

Nutoogs is not an angry person so I will just d1 vote him for a game or 2, but nicely.
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What did I angle shoot?
 
GoalieMom said:
sorry Ryala. I was really confused with what happened n4. I also bought SD3's claim, especially once BYM's role was confirmed as Black widow and it seemed like Iron Man had to be in the game.
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N4 ended up being very confusing, and all of us were wrong about it through till the end. Goon redwing and protective role goaliemom feels like it has a pretty easy explanation, but it was just wrong this time.
 
I said it in deadchat, but my only real issue with the game was people knowing that they had stones from the movie. The people who possessed the stones tracked 1:1 IIRC with the movie.

Some of my decisions were made because I knew my death would reveal the soul stone.
 
Toogs said:
Thanks for the fun game gooner!

Civs lost because bym made an honest mistake which led to his lynch. There are two lessons here:

1) civs make mistakes. Think before killing them
2) karma exists. Bym angle shot once severely and a few other times.

Nutoogs is not an angry person so I will just d1 vote him for a game or 2, but nicely.
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Honestly, being an asshole is super fun. THIS IS THE OFFICIAL PASSING OF THE TORCH
 
Once Tim night talked and pointed a finger at me mafia did the right thing killing me. Especially given several people already said I was clear.

I had an entire post ready to go about how Occam’s razor pointed out Eagles as mafia once timdunk died and his role came out. Also pointed a finger at shiny there (whoops). Told y’all juice was mafia - his apology sealed that for me.

Excellent game SD3. Very well played.
 
A huge thanks to everyone for playing. This was one of the most brutal games I've ever modded so I'm happy it's over. I hope you all enjoyed playing. I am sorry to the civs for making it so hard for you to win.
 
Oh and rest of my team won the game overruling me. I wanted to kill Romanov with juice instead of sd3. Thought Romanov would get tricky and jail sd3 instead of staying on juice. Glad they made the better decision.
 
I know others disagree (had a brief chat in the dead room) but the tcc and mako votes for the person who just got lynched were absolutely egregious. With that in mind now people can easily replicate as mafia but for two relatively new players and/or outsiders who we haven’t played with there was no way they weren’t civs
 
Lol rommy did you rng that? I literally said in chat to if ore your posts you would probably flip a coin
 
Gooner said:
1. Rommy - Black Panther: B+ Dickrode Eagles for far too long due to faulty assumption that Eagles would perform hits. Made the best civ special play of the game by jailing Juice, but didn't trust his read. All-around best pure mafia analysis in the game.

2. Bym - Black Widow, Soul Stone: C Was a solid B until he made some questionable late round mistakes that led to his death when keeping Stones out of mafia's hands was the only objective left for civs. Decent analysis during the game, nailed a couple mafia, but his dicksteps cost civs dearly.

3. Townie - Cull Obsidian: C+ Has played admirably in his first foray into mafia, but was a little hesitant at times this game and also stole the Groot claim from dv7. Nothing stands out as really bad but his role would have been helpful late if he could have avoided early heat.

4. Nonny - Vision: Incomplete Made one post, got hit N1, unlucky to have an Infinity Stone.

5. BBD - vanilla civ, Ant Man: A Did not get to participate much but ate a night hit as a vanilla civ so that's a job well done.

6. Da - Star Lord, Reality Stone: A- Was the driving force behind recruiting Shiny which ended up being correct. Played a solid civ game, never got into too much trouble. Did pretty well to prevent GAT from getting too much early heat. Good decision not to claim early.

7. SD3 - Proxima Midnight: B+ Played well beginning to end, though maybe relied too much on mafEagles clearing him. His claim was suspect though and really he skated a little too much on it. Also inadvertently revealed the unlynchable and snap powers of Thanos for no reason, but no one caught it.

8. Knight - Hawkeye: Incomplete: Should have godmodded this.

9. Juice - Thanos: A+ Took almost no heat at all, performed extremely well during rounds that were critical to mafia success, and also made the pure gut call to send SD3 to hit rommy when rommy planned on jailing Juice a second time. What a top class performance from Juice even if it was the most OP role I've ever written.

10. Redwing - Chitauri Soldier: A- Did a good job laying low and not getting into too much trouble. Unlucky to be caught visiting rommy N4 but actually benefited from mafia because no one could figure out why he was there.

11. WFU03 - vanilla civ, Falcon: B+ Stayed alive as a vanilla civ, but maybe would have been better off dying earlier as Ph was so far up his ass he could see out his mouth. Correctly criticized my game setup.

12. Mako - vanilla civ, Drax: C- for gameplay, A+ for humor Don't dumbtell. But if you're going to do it, at least be funny and entertaining. mako was.

13. Bern - Loki, Space Stone: B- Knew that he probably had a stone but didn't claim when he was going down, this led to Nebula immediately losing cop powers (which I messed up, but no harm done).

14. JMan - vanilla civ, Mantis: B Didn't do too much wrong, but got lynched early. Tough break.

15. Gouda - vanilla civ, Bucky Barnes: A- Didn't have time to really get his vanilla civ claws into the game during the few rounds he was alive, but did eat a night hit as a vanilla civ so that was good.

16. DV7 - Chitauri Soldier: D+ Still not Groot. Breadcrumbing Groot was bad. Was useful as a goon hitter/recruiter for a couple nights.

17. Eagles - Chitauri Soldier: C+ If he was in chatzy for N1, this game goes much differently. Good for mafia he wasn't. His truthteller claim was suspect, but he did have rommy bamboozled for a while so that's not a bad thing. Still knocking the rust off.

18. Ph - vanilla civ, Pepper Potts: C- Was so tunneled on WFU that it rendered him almost completely useless. Made some suspect judgments about game design that came back to haunt the civs. Didn't claim in an endgame. But he almost nailed the Proxima Midnight role so bonus points.

19. Toogs - Corvus Glaive: B He played OK for the most part, better maf chatter than in-thread player this game. Talked some sense into some maf night moves before things could go off the rails. Made the call to not RB with tim early which was a 100% correct call.

20. GAT - Gamora: B+ See Da. Some points docked for terribad entrance posts, but that's just GAT.

21. Ryala - Doctor Strange, Time Stone: A+ You deserved better. Great watches, great civ analysis, no backup when he needed it most.

22. Shiny - Nebula: B Made the correct call not to indicate recruitability because of potential death. Played a pretty civ game, lost the plot a bit towards the end with voting.

23. Tcc - vanilla civ, Shuri: B- Played civ...but voting wasn't his strong suit...tunneled on Ph almost as much as Ph tunneled on WFU...

24. GoalieMom - Capt. America: B+ Made some solid protection choices up to when rommy got night hit. Then protected SD3 with her 1-time angel the night she was hit. Sounded civ all game, but was a little too distrustful of claims, especially ryala's.

25. Damo - Thor: B Never really had a shot to get into the game, only was able to make one investigation. Seemed civ enough to get hit though, but that's not necessarily great when you're the GF hunter.

26. Numbers - vanilla civ, Rocket: B+ Didn't have much to do, but ate a night hit, unfortunately one that caused massive confusion.

27. Tim - Ebony Maw: C Played an extremely good game up to the point that he night posted twice after a majo night. Harsh, yes. Necessary, also yes. It was a judgment call, I felt bad doing it, but it had to happen.

28. Gooner - Mod: C I thought the game setup was fun and that the roles would be interesting, but I second guessed myself after original drafts had the civs be superpowered and the maf have 7 members. I neutered watcher/tracker to alternate and gave the maf an extra goon, but that was too much. Balance was incredbily maf heavy. Sorry civs.
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I think JMan was like 100% with his reads IIRC.
 
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