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New coaching search thread

KVegasDeac said:
I only repeated what I was told about Giles...he never told me he was coming to Wake. I did not have first hand information.

This...is different.

All I can say is that Amaker was at Wake Forest today.
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If y'all could read, you'd see kvegas is implying that Amaker himself told him.

Though associating with dukies reduces credibility significantly.
 
Deacs9394 said:
Ok, but he also had prior HC experience. Still, I give you that. Which brings me back to the Kelsey hate...I don't understand why Skip assistants like Dino and Mack succeeded but somehow another Skip assistant would fail. It's like there's an anti-Kelsey narrative that many folks on here have to defend. So odd.
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Turd Ferguson said:
Dino has prior HC experience
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Ah, didn't remember he had Army HC experience. I was young when he was Wake's coach so didn't follow his past that closely.
 
CharlotteDeac1 said:
Ah, didn't remember he had Army HC experience. I was young when he was Wake's coach so didn't follow his past that closely.
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That makes me feel old. Are you a current student? It feels like their are very few things of those that post on here these days, which is understandable, given the state of the basketball program over the last 10 years.
 
deac29 said:
That makes me feel old. Are you a current student? It feels like their are very few things of those that post on here these days, which is understandable, given the state of the basketball program over the last 10 years.
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Not a current student, "young" was relative, I guess.

Watching the Wake/Duke game on ACCN the last night, I was freshman in high school at the time. One of my favorite experiences as a young Deac fan - paused the TV and told my girlfriend the drawn-up inbounds play before it played. That was an awesome design by Dino.
 
This might be difficult, but can someone please summarize all the rumors together for some of us who haven’t filled closely over the past couple days. Seems like there is a lot out there.
 
SC DEAC said:
If we hire Amaker, then that just might do it for me. I'm not sure i could subject myself to the wake forest basketball shitshow anymore. I've been a huge Wake for more than 40 years every since I was a little kid but I'm tired of this shit. Please let it be Matta or Forbes. Possibly Miller. Just not Amaker.
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Stop. We are not hiring Tommy Amaker, no matter what Rat Face says. We are not going to blow this chance to get a stud to bring our Program back to respectability.

1. Beilein
2. Matta
3. Forbes
4. Miller.

In that order; the only 4 in the mix.
 
Current student here. Not going to claim to have some super inside Tier 1 sauces but one of my friends who is associated with the athletic department told me that both Matta and Amaker were on campus today and that they heard Amaker is "likely" to get the job. Granted my friend may not be in the know (and may be getting stuff from this board lol) but thats what I heard.
 
Deacs9394 said:
Ok, I lied. Can't leave with that one waiting a response. Touché. Still, I can name mid-major coaches that never have a Top 100 team that did succeed at the P6 level.
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I invested way too much time in going through the power conference coaches and looking at the jobs these guys each had before they got their first power conference jobs, here are the folks who did not have at least one top 100 team (where unavailable I used NCAAT seed or record as a proxy)

Guys who may not have hit top 100 but were pretty clearly trendi
-Ed Cooley - prior to getting the Providence job, his best season at Fairfield was #106
-Kevin Willard - prior to getting the Seton Hall job, his best season at Iona was #110
-Jay Wright - his best Hofstra team was a 13 seed - looks like typically 13 seeds fall in the 90-115 range in KP
-Tad Boyle - prior to getting the Colorado job, his best season at Northern Colorado was #125
-Andy Enfield - prior to getting the USC job, his best season at FGCU was #105
-Lon Kruger - prior to getting the Kansas State job, his best season at Texas Pan-America was 20-8

Guys who were only at the job for a year or two:
-Richard Pitinio - prior to getting the Minnesota job, he a single, #188 season at FIU
-Pat Chambers - his best season (of two) at Boston University was #133
-Rick Barnes - prior to getting the Providence job, he had one 20-10 season at George Mason
-LaVall Jordan - prior to getting the Butler job, his single season at Milwaukee was #259

In summary, the only two appropriate comparisons I could come-up with
-Ben Howland - best Northern Arizona team was a #15 seed, which is generally not equivalent to top 100
-Mike Brey - His best Delaware team was a 13 seed - looks like typically 13 seeds fall in the 90-115 range in KP

What the hell you do with this information I don't really know. Other than to say it certainly isn't rampant that coaches move up to a power conference after long tenures at a low major that did not produce or appear to be on track to produce a top 100 team.

Also, Ben Howland might have been one of the most impressive coaching hires of all time for Pittsburgh. Never worked for a high profile head coach, never worked on the east coast, never won more than 21 games at NAU. More or less plucked from Big Sky obscurity.

One final learning, Martin Ingelsby at Delaware is going to be a coach to watch. Took over a 7 win team and won 22 games in year 4 while having every player of note return next year. He played for Brey and was on his bench for 7 years at ND.
 
DeacsPop said:
Stop. We are not hiring Tommy Amaker, no matter what Rat Face says. We are not going to blow this chance to get a stud to bring our Program back to respectability.

1. Beilein
2. Matta
3. Forbes
4. Miller.

In that order; the only 4 in the mix.
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Sause?
 
DeacsPop said:
Stop. We are not hiring Tommy Amaker, no matter what Rat Face says. We are not going to blow this chance to get a stud to bring our Program back to respectability.

1. Beilein
2. Matta
3. Forbes
4. Miller.

In that order; the only 4 in the mix.
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You left out Kelsey
 
If Matta and Amaker were on campus today, there is no way Currie is planning on hiring Amaker. For Matta to come to W-S, there would be some serious mutual interest. Can’t see Currie choosing Amaker over Matta LOL.
 
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Best post of the day. LMAO.

WakeFanAdam said:
Currie: I want to hire Kelsey but I don't know how to sell it to OG Board.
Hatch: Threaten to hire Amaker.
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Best news of the day. Thad Matta remains a candidate.

Closing thought. Still a six man race but leaders have emerged. As always, only a select few know who they are and they aren't talking.

Tomorrow could prove interesting.
 
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It's all a distraction to get away from the fact a man flew from Naples to WS for a package.
 
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