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Rejecting words and actions which perpetrate, support or encourage white supremacists

I'm happy about these statues, that's great. When the fuck are we going to get rid of the asshole on the $20 bill? Can we finally get momentum for Harriet Tubman on the $20? The $20 bill led to a knee on George Floyd's neck. Let's change that $20.

Besides the obvious awfulness of Jackson regarding a number of minority groups, I've always thought it ironic that a man who so energetically hated banks and paper money somehow ended up on the $20 bill. Tubman would likely already be on the bill if Trump hadn't been elected.
 
Yep, naming military bases for traitors, who took arms to kill American soldiers, makes sense....that "heritage" is of keeping slavery operational and being willing to destroy America to do it.

Not only that, but Trump's claim that these bases were named for "winning, victory, and freedom" does not fit any that are named after Confederate generals - they lost the war (no winning or victory) and they were fighting to keep slaves from getting their freedom. Odd choice of words there for Dear Leader.
 
David Petraeus piece calling you remove Confederate general names from Army bases.


https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/06/take-confederate-names-off-our-army-bases/612832/

I never knew Fort Bragg was named after a Confederate general much less a shitty Confederate general.

Bragg was a horrible general in every sense. His main battlefield tactic seemed to consist of little but frontal assaults, which cost him the lives of thousands of his men for little gain. He lost nearly every battle he fought except for Chickamauga, where his victory mainly came from reinforcements led by Gen. Longstreet sent by Lee. He was a brutal disciplinarian whose own men hated him, he bickered and fought constantly with his subordinate generals (in 1863, led by Longstreet, they sent a letter to Confederate President Jefferson Davis begging him to remove Bragg from command, as he was incompetent to command the army.) As Bragg was personal friends with Davis, Davis kept him on, only to see him get crushed by Grant at Chattanooga a few months later, and Davis had no choice but to relieve him. Davis eventually put Bragg in command of the defenses at Wilmington, where he screwed up again by not sending enough men to Fort Fisher downriver to adequately defend it, and instead kept most of his men at Wilmington where they were useless. When Fort Fisher fell to US Army troops they didn't have to capture Wilmington directly, as the port was effectively cut off from the outside world anyway. There are many stories of how awful he was as a general, and some people at the time seriously thought he was mentally unstable, as he would go off on long rants and tirades when he lost his temper. Not to mention that he fought for the rebellion and for slavery, but even as a military general, his chosen profession, he sucked.

A number of military bases in the South are named after Confederates. As to why Fort Bragg was named after him, I've read that there were not that many famous high-ranking Confederate generals from NC, and so it was named after him basically by default. Surely there is another North Carolinian from some other war that is far more deserving of the honor, one would think.
 
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I just learned that the first anti-lynching law in Congress was written by a House rep from my hometown in 1901. He was defeated after laws were passed to make it harder for Black people to vote. He was the last Black congressman from NC until 1992.
 
Jefferson Davis came down in Richmond (by protestors again)

 
It's not that Trump is a racist...It's a coincidence that his first live rally after the pandemic and the death of George Floyd will be happening on the anniversary of the last reading of the Emancipation Proclamation AND in a city that had white people massacre hundreds of blacks, burn their homes and burn their businesses.

This seems like a good plan.
 
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I put this on the Fascism thread, but it fits better here:

Two bits of branding news:

I know next to nothing about Magic: The Gathering. I definitely didn't know there were "racist cards."


https://www.polygon.com/2020/6/10/2...-banned-removed-from-database-wizards-apology




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It's a good message because they make it clear that society hasn't changed, the overall situation has changed. They are just watching and listening and understanding as a result. It's not about "these times" or even just George Floyd. They acknowledge they didn't realize.

This is why I'm optimistic. It is a small step to realize celebrating "antebellum" in any way is an endorsement of racism. Any band or company or other entity with "antebellum," "Dixie," or "plantation" in the name needs to do the work to show they don't endorse racism. This moves the conversation forward.
 
I used to play MTG and never really considered the cards racist. There are colors in the game, but they're not racially aligned (other than most goblins are red).

Obviously, Wizards of the Coast is more woke than I am. I did think it appropriate when they vowed to stop using sexist art a few years ago (fantasy armor where the less coverage the better the armor).
 
I used to play MTG and never really considered the cards racist. There are colors in the game, but they're not racially aligned (other than most goblins are red).

Obviously, Wizards of the Coast is more woke than I am. I did think it appropriate when they vowed to stop using sexist art a few years ago (fantasy armor where the less coverage the better the armor).

Invoke prejudice is quite literally white supremacist. The artist is an actual nazi. They haven’t worked with him in over 20 years. Most of the other cards banned are problematic in flavor text and real world depictions. I think they are making some good moves, but they should also actually hire some people of color and women to work for the company.
 
Invoke prejudice is quite literally white supremacist. The artist is an actual nazi. They haven’t worked with him in over 20 years. Most of the other cards banned are problematic in flavor text and real world depictions. I think they are making some good moves, but they should also actually hire some people of color and women to work for the company.

Invoke Prejudice is not "literally white supremacist." It's a single card from a game with over 20,000 different magic cards that was published in 1994 in a set that was the low point of the game.

The odds that a single card was impacted by someone with racially charged views are high. But to say that the cards are overtly racist or to try to paint the game as having racist vibes based on the white and black colors is just fucking disingenuous and unreasonable to such a degree that it will push people away from correct thinking.
 
Invoke Prejudice is not "literally white supremacist." It's a single card from a game with over 20,000 different magic cards that was published in 1994 in a set that was the low point of the game.

The odds that a single card was impacted by someone with racially charged views are high. But to say that the cards are overtly racist or to try to paint the game as having racist vibes based on the white and black colors is just fucking disingenuous and unreasonable to such a degree that it will push people away from correct thinking.

I play the game. Still enjoy the game. I have no problem with the color pie. Invoke prejudice is literally a visual and textual representation of white supremacy. Wotc admits as much.
 
Raise your hand if you are surprised that Deakfreak7 plays magic the gathering? I’m kidding dude, one of my nerd friends plays that game too.
 
I play the game. Still enjoy the game. I have no problem with the color pie. Invoke prejudice is literally a visual and textual representation of white supremacy. Wotc admits as much.

Why haven't we played?

I mean, NERD!
 
Raise your hand if you are surprised that Deakfreak7 plays magic the gathering? I’m kidding dude, one of my nerd friends plays that game too.

Why haven't we played?

I mean, NERD!

Big Nerd Energy. Found the game a few years ago, and it’s been a really fun hobby. Definitely the nerdiest thing about me.
 
Bragg was a horrible general in every sense. His main battlefield tactic seemed to consist of little but frontal assaults, which cost him the lives of thousands of his men for little gain. He lost nearly every battle he fought except for Chickamauga, where his victory mainly came from reinforcements led by Gen. Longstreet sent by Lee. He was a brutal disciplinarian whose own men hated him, he bickered and fought constantly with his subordinate generals (in 1863, led by Longstreet, they sent a letter to Confederate President Jefferson Davis begging him to remove Bragg from command, as he was incompetent to command the army.) As Bragg was personal friends with Davis, Davis kept him on, only to see him get crushed by Grant at Chattanooga a few months later, and Davis had no choice but to relieve him. Davis eventually put Bragg in command of the defenses at Wilmington, where he screwed up again by not sending enough men to Fort Fisher downriver to adequately defend it, and instead kept most of his men at Wilmington where they were useless. When Fort Fisher fell to US Army troops they didn't have to capture Wilmington directly, as the port was effectively cut off from the outside world anyway. There are many stories of how awful he was as a general, and some people at the time seriously thought he was mentally unstable, as he would go off on long rants and tirades when he lost his temper. Not to mention that he fought for the rebellion and for slavery, but even as a military general, his chosen profession, he sucked.

A number of military bases in the South are named after Confederates. As to why Fort Bragg was named after him, I've read that there were not that many famous high-ranking Confederate generals from NC, and so it was named after him basically by default. Surely there is another North Carolinian from some other war that is far more deserving of the honor, one would think.

I believe Fort Bragg was named after Braxton because he was an artillery officer (from NC) and Fort Bragg began as an artillery training center. Also, because Lost Cause, from NC, general racistness and generally other bad reasons. States had the ability to name the army bases what they wanted to so many were named after confederate traitors for the same bad reasons.

This administration loves to exploit dead veterans, because they know dead people can't call bullshit on their statements. Black and White Americans left Ft. Bragg to fight for their country, and maybe it was the last piece of the US they ever saw, but that doesn't mean they care to keep the name.
 
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