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ConnorEl said:
I got used by it a few times.
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Preach.

I got limits. I got derivatives of trig variables, etc. I got the memorization parts. I just couldn't (and, honestly, still can't) get the fucking why. That is/was the biggest hurdle for me. I get that it's sketching curves and shapes, but for ever loving christ, why?

Sitting through two semesters of that shit felt like falling down a well with plenty of time to think about hitting the bottom, and, by the end of the second semester, fucking praying that there actually was a bottom to just to end the misery of continually falling. I achieved no satisfaction. Other than turning speed into acceleration, I have no fucking clue what to do with any of it. The only two "C" grades that I've ever been proud of. Even in O Chem, I got a As and Bs.
 
Grabs Turds Bare said:
Preach.

I got limits. I got derivatives of trig variables, etc. I got the memorization parts. I just couldn't (and, honestly, still can't) get the fucking why. That is/was the biggest hurdle for me. I get that it's sketching curves and shapes, but for ever loving christ, why?

Sitting through two semesters of that shit felt like falling down a well with plenty of time to think about hitting the bottom, and, by the end of the second semester, fucking praying that there actually was a bottom to just to end the misery of continually falling. I achieved no satisfaction. Other than turning speed into acceleration, I have no fucking clue what to do with any of it. The only two "C" grades that I've ever been proud of. Even in O Chem, I got a As and Bs.
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Haha. Sounds like me. I am glad I stuck through it though so I could eventually get to analytical chemistry, where at least you can use what you learn to solve a tangible problem.
 
There should be a comprehensive list of all the things teachers said are very important and you need to know and then never ever use again. Ive done scientific and medical work my entire life and not once have I gone well shit let me write out this full length chemical equation and make sure to balance it, lets dive deeper and draw some electron shells to make sure the bonds are stable.
 
Louis Gossett Jr said:
There should be a comprehensive list of all the things teachers said are very important and you need to know and then never ever use again. Ive done scientific and medical work my entire life and not once have I gone well shit let me write out this full length chemical equation and make sure to balance it, lets dive deeper and draw some electron shells to make sure the bonds are stable.
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Even valence shells and mechanisms are theoretically useful. I've thought back quite often to the things I learned in O-chem to apply them to how the human body works. I've also never had to balance a chemical equation in real life, but I've applied the concepts many times. Calculus is just a whole new level of "yeah, fuckin' nah."
 
here's the thing about calculus:

yeah, you don't need to figure out what the limit of x is as it approaches 0 while you're drafting a brief

but

what you did learn was how to take several mathematical tools and apply them to a complex problem with only bits of information to figure out a best solution

that ordered process of problem-solving is a skill you use all the damn time and not enough people can do that


so, yeah, there isn't a lot of real world application to calculus for most of us (though I would imagine engineers use it to design some pretty sweet shit), but the process of learning it is very valuable -- one piece in setting the stage for understanding how to do complex Excel formulas or make tricky legal arguments or make an engine more efficient or whatever the fuck
 
Louis Gossett Jr said:
There should be a comprehensive list of all the things teachers said are very important and you need to know and then never ever use again. Ive done scientific and medical work my entire life and not once have I gone well shit let me write out this full length chemical equation and make sure to balance it, lets dive deeper and draw some electron shells to make sure the bonds are stable.
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i mean, pedagogy isn't just about putting useful things into your brain.

i.e. developing a skill sometimes means learning foundations or theory that scaffold into more applied knowledge.

also maybe there was someone in one of those classes who does rely on writing out full length equations? hard to tailor class to each specific student's future.
 
ConnorEl said:
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At Trump rally 9 days before testing positive.
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The dude in the back, center looks like he was paid to be there and immediately regretted his decision when he walked in.
 
Palma I mean Rep Luetkemeyer getting slapped around by people that know what they are talking about.

 
I dunno dude, this friend of this guy I went to high school with that got straight C's lays out a pretty convincing argument that Fauci is in fact a communist traitor on the facebook
 
I'm learning that plama spends a lot of time on facebook this week. v interesting.
 
Deacfan2009 said:
I'm learning that plama spends a lot of time on facebook this week. v interesting.
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Pops up on the Facebook feed as we speak.

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Fairly sure the collective gpas of the commenters , posters and likers was a 1.5. But they all got like 4 kids. Must. Not. Troll.
 
Louis Gossett Jr said:
Palma I mean Rep Luetkemeyer getting slapped around by people that know what they are talking about.

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Good grief.

Sure, hospitals rightly want to capture on the diagnosis billing/coding if someone in fact has Covid-19. That's appropriate. It's unlikely widespread but possible there may be some folks pushing this effort into inappropriate territory.

But I'm pretty sure nobody is fudging intentionally on the cause of death.


And I guess we're sadly into religious territory with the cult of hydroxychloroquine (plus the magic of zinc and maybe this antibacterial drug all if given at the exact correct coalesce of heart beat, breathing, stroke of midnight, and correct astrological alignments).
 
...note, it's fine to continue to study the drug if you want to see if there's some better way to use it and test to see if you are right. High-quality trials are always welcome.
 
I breezed through to precalculus and calculus and multivariate calculus my last two of high school kicked my ass. I remember my freshman year at trying to help some girls with their calculus homework and I was useless.

tagsfan said:
Back in the day, the 5 hour freshman calculus class was what caused many engineering students to say their major was pre-Business.
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I actually have a pretty well cited article on this very topic.
 
Whats the article about Ph? Is there any dive into why certain teachers and classes feel the need to be gate keepers to majors that springboard you to advanced careers. Like organic chemistry is made more difficult and challenging than it needs to be thus eliminating people that want to be Pre-med.
 
JuiceCrewAllStar said:
here's the thing about calculus:

yeah, you don't need to figure out what the limit of x is as it approaches 0 while you're drafting a brief

but

what you did learn was how to take several mathematical tools and apply them to a complex problem with only bits of information to figure out a best solution

that ordered process of problem-solving is a skill you use all the damn time and not enough people can do that


so, yeah, there isn't a lot of real world application to calculus for most of us (though I would imagine engineers use it to design some pretty sweet shit), but the process of learning it is very valuable -- one piece in setting the stage for understanding how to do complex Excel formulas or make tricky legal arguments or make an engine more efficient or whatever the fuck
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This.

It’s also why the rote memorization required for O-chem can bite my ass.
 
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