ConnorEl
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Perfectly said and all my Pub friends say same thing. If Dump ran on the issues he would have kicked Biden's ass.
Either way he’s appealing to the duped.
Perfectly said and all my Pub friends say same thing. If Dump ran on the issues he would have kicked Biden's ass.
I guess I just don't think there are very many truly undecided people out there. I have a hard time believing there is just about anyone who was seriously considering Biden who will now flip to Trump because of the fracking comment.
I guess I just don't think there are very many truly undecided people out there. I have a hard time believing there is just about anyone who was seriously considering Biden who will now flip to Trump because of the fracking comment.
I think you might be dumber than 2&2. You want Biden to be MORE conservative????????
I'll say this. If by some miracle Trump does win the Dems have a shit ton of soul searching to do.
If he were to, say, win all the toss ups and then capture PA because Western PA comes out in mass it will be because Joe Biden can't fucking recognize that the number one thing you NEVER do in an election is threaten people's livelihood - and that's especially in the middle of a pandemic.
They will have lost because Trump managed to paint them as too far to the left. Does anyone here think Andrew Yang, Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders win against Trump in this cycle, despite all the fucking shitastic factors against him? If you do, you absolutely are out to lunch. Bc if Trump does manage to win it will be because he managed to paint a centrist as a "radical" and because Biden gave him just enough oxygen to eek it out.
Perfectly said and all my Pub friends say same thing. If Dump ran on the issues he would have kicked Biden's ass.
What part of winning do you not grasp? Don't answer that. We already know the answer.
I'll say this. If by some miracle Trump does win the Dems have a shit ton of soul searching to do.
If he were to, say, win all the toss ups and then capture PA because Western PA comes out in mass it will be because Joe Biden can't fucking recognize that the number one thing you NEVER do in an election is threaten people's livelihood - and that's especially in the middle of a pandemic.
They will have lost because Trump managed to paint them as too far to the left. Does anyone here think Andrew Yang, Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders win against Trump in this cycle, despite all the fucking shitastic factors against him? If you do, you absolutely are out to lunch. Bc if Trump does manage to win it will be because he managed to paint a centrist as a "radical" and because Biden gave him just enough oxygen to eek it out.
What part of winning do you not grasp? Don't answer that. We already know the answer.
Oh good. We are pre-blaming the democrats because a shit ton of people were cool with voting for an insane, racist, sociopath.
lol, you’re saying the Dems need to “soul search” because Biden spoke out weakly (instead of full-throated) in favor of fracking, which is only an issue because it happens to affect a region if a swing state
If anyone has learned the lesson of running to the right in 2016, it’s this guy. He simply knows the playbook. Why get black and Latino votes when you can get Lincoln project pubs? Can’t win Cali twice!
And which Latino votes, exactly, are Dems fretting about right now in Florida? The ones from Cuba and Venezuela. It shouldn't be that hard to convince voters that could make your victory totally assured in Florida that you aren't a socialist hell bent on destroying free markets. Yet somehow Trump has painted Biden somewhat successfully as this. It's literally the only reason he even has a chance to draw an inside straight right now.
And which Latino votes, exactly, are Dems fretting about right now in Florida? The ones from Cuba and Venezuela. It shouldn't be that hard to convince voters that could make your victory totally assured in Florida that you aren't a socialist hell bent on destroying free markets. Yet somehow Trump has painted Biden somewhat successfully as this. It's literally the only reason he even has a chance to draw an inside straight right now.
Dude, saying you are going to transition away from fracking over a long period of time is not speaking out in favor of fracking. It is, in fact, Biden's stated position. And he fucking butchered his delivery of said position.
Progressives use electoralism as a crutch to reconcile their belief that their ideas are super duper popular with the fact that their candidates cannot win except in very highly blue districts.This is exactly the problem with electoralism. Not only does it make for not picking the best candidates, it turns every Tom, Dick, and DeacMan into Nate Silver or Larry Sabato. Just rattling off random counties in Florida and PA and spitting MSNBC talking points from 2017 David Frum.
Fracking has only existed for like 20 years...these communities that are addicted to fracking jobs could very easily be transitioned to other industries, just like they were transitioned to fracking over the last 20 years. Also, Fuck fracking.
Progressives use electoralism as a crutch to reconcile their belief that their ideas are super duper popular with the fact that their candidates cannot win except in very highly blue districts.