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Official Election Month Thread: COUP falls short, nothing to see here

feeling a lot better about Biden, but the lack of Senate will make so much of the next four years really suck
 
Louis Gossett Jr said:
With WI and MI looking like they will be called for Biden we wait for Nevada, where it’s only like a 10,000 vote lead. What’s the feeling there? All remains is absentee and most in the more Dem county of Clark, I guess you assume like most places absentee skews democrat as well?
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MSNBC said this morning that they believe most of the remaining votes in NV are in Democratic areas and that it would be good for Biden, but they were not certain and so were waiting on actual votes before making a call.
 
1.4 million uncounted absentee ballots in PA rn
 
Highland Deac said:
Agreed. Even if Biden wins the GOP will likely keep the Senate and gain seats in the House contrary to expectations. The Democrats also did poorly in many state races, which gives the GOP the upper hand in redistricting next year. At best Biden will run a kind of holding action, but no progressive (or even mildly liberal) legislation will get passed in the next two years. The GOP's goal is to keep the status quo going and prevent any liberal or reform bills or actions from happening, and they've basically succeeded in doing so for another two to four years, whether Biden wins or not. Biden may well win, but the Democrats need to take a long, hard look at what they're doing and make some changes, or they're going to continue to struggle to get anything accomplished (or just win bare majorities) going forward. It is damned depressing, whether Joe wins or not.
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Yeah this is the real problem. Biden as a 4 year elderly placeholder for a Blue wave of Senate and House majorities backed by a public mandate to return to some semblance of normalcy - that would have worked. There is a ton of young talent in the Democratic party that could build off a few wins and take advantage of what folks thought was a changing demographic and a new blue wall in one or more areas.

Instead we're left with the reality that when the country really turns out for an election there are huge holes in Democratic support - Trump expanded his base in many places. And he's note even a good candidate. Biden may eke out a win like Trump did 4 years ago, but he'll be lying on the train tracks waiting for the Senate to run him over. McConnell will prevent any real work from getting done and lay a mountain of deficit talk on him. If Republicans can actually find a solid candidate next time around they'll probably beat Harris.

Sobering day.
 
JuiceCrewAllStar said:
feeling a lot better about Biden, but the lack of Senate will make so much of the next four years really suck
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Yeah, Biden will get all of the responsibility for cleaning up this mess and will not get any help from McConnell or the Senate. In fact they'll no doubt do everything they can to sabotage him. I also wonder if Biden will be able to get any Democratic judges appointed, as McConnell and the GOP may just block any Biden appointees. And why not? It's clear from the election results that they aren't going to pay any price for doing so.
 
Liquid Karma said:
Last night was the live betting arbitrage moment of a lifetime.
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It really was. Political pundits spent weeks explaining exactly why Donald might be ahead on Election Day due to how the vote gets counted and once he won Florida and looked favored in Nc the books were like “OMG ITS OVER” entirely ignoring the underlying data points. Remarkably dumb
 
every time i look at the McGrath numbers they get worse
 
Wakeforest22890 said:
It really was. Political pundits spent weeks explaining exactly why Donald might be ahead on Election Day due to how the vote gets counted and once he won Florida and looked favored in Nc the books were like “OMG ITS OVER” entirely ignoring the underlying data points. Remarkably dumb
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That’s not exactly an accurate retelling - all of the polling data that has been driving forecasts was extremely off. The results coming in were much closer and even reverse to what was expected.
 
DCDeac said:
Yeah this is the real problem. Biden as a 4 year elderly placeholder for a Blue wave of Senate and House majorities backed by a public mandate to return to some semblance of normalcy - that would have worked. There is a ton of young talent in the Democratic party that could build off a few wins and take advantage of what folks thought was a changing demographic and a new blue wall in one or more areas.

Instead we're left with the reality that when the country really turns out for an election there are huge holes in Democratic support - Trump expanded his base in many places. And he's note even a good candidate. Biden may eke out a win like Trump did 4 years ago, but he'll be lying on the train tracks waiting for the Senate to run him over. McConnell will prevent any real work from getting done and lay a mountain of deficit talk on him. If Republicans can actually find a solid candidate next time around they'll probably beat Harris.

Sobering day.
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They were saying the same on NBC this morning - whether Biden wins or not, this was a really bad night for the Democratic Party as a whole. The Senate map is much more favorable in 2022, except that Trump won't be around to run against, but Biden will be in charge, and will get the blame for anything that goes wrong, which may negate the Democratic advantages in the Senate races. And the House majority may be in real danger in 2022. Sobering indeed.
 
If Senate is 51-49 GOP and Biden wins, Mitt Romney has a chance of becoming the most powerful man in America, just like he has dreamed of being for 30 years.
 
Truly amazing that half the country is even worse - at minimum dumber - than we already know. Even more amazing is that the dems picked up the tab for mcconell's years of bs. The bill (losing the senate) was literally on the table and the dems reach over and say, "I'll get this you buy next time." There's never a next time.
 
At least all those fucking cheesy run forest run signs I’ve had to see in the NC sticks can go DIAF.
 
We wouldn't even be in this situation if it weren't for the Bernie Bros in 2016
 
ABCDeac said:
If Senate is 51-49 GOP and Biden wins, Mitt Romney has a chance of becoming the most powerful man in America, just like he has dreamed of being for 30 years.
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How so? Why would McConnell bring anything to a vote that won’t win in his favor?
 
Liquid Karma said:
Last night was the live betting arbitrage moment of a lifetime.
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Indeed:

Time D. Trump Odds J. Biden Odds
9:00 am ET +235 -335
7:30 am ET +270 -390
2:00 am ET -240 +175
1:40 am ET -210 +155
1:25 am ET -180 +135
1:10 am ET -160 +120
1:00 am ET -145 +110
12:50 am ET -160 +120
12:30 am ET -165 +125
12:15 am ET -150 +115
12:10 am ET -180 +135
12:00 am ET -135 +105
11:50 pm ET -150 +115
11:40 pm ET -165 +125
11:30 pm ET -190 +145
11:15 pm ET -295 +215
11:05 pm ET -330 +235
11:00 pm ET -240 +180
10:45 pm ET -270 +200
10:35 pm ET -250 +185
10:20 pm ET -300 +220
10:10 pm ET -775 +450
10:00 pm ET -370 +260
9:40 pm ET -220 +155
9:35 pm ET -245 +180
9:30 pm ET -200 +150
9:25 pm ET -120 -110
9:20 pm ET -110 -120
9:00 pm ET +110 -145
8:50 pm ET +115 -150
8:45 pm ET +135 -180
8:35 pm ET +120 -150
8:25 pm ET +100 -130
8:15 pm ET -110 -120
8:00 pm ET +100 -135
7:50 pm ET +105 -135
7:45 pm ET +125 -155
7:35 pm ET +145 -175
7:30 pm ET +160 -190
7:25 pm ET +180 -210
7:20 pm ET +190 -220
7:10 pm ET +175 -215
7:00 pm ET +170 -200
6:00 pm ET +170 -200
3:45 pm ET +170 -200
2:30 pm ET +175 -205
2:00 pm ET +180 -210
1:15 pm ET +170 -200
12:00 pm ET +160 -190
 
DCDeac said:
Yeah this is the real problem. Biden as a 4 year elderly placeholder for a Blue wave of Senate and House majorities backed by a public mandate to return to some semblance of normalcy - that would have worked. There is a ton of young talent in the Democratic party that could build off a few wins and take advantage of what folks thought was a changing demographic and a new blue wall in one or more areas.

Instead we're left with the reality that when the country really turns out for an election there are huge holes in Democratic support - Trump expanded his base in many places. And he's note even a good candidate. Biden may eke out a win like Trump did 4 years ago, but he'll be lying on the train tracks waiting for the Senate to run him over. McConnell will prevent any real work from getting done and lay a mountain of deficit talk on him. If Republicans can actually find a solid candidate next time around they'll probably beat Harris.

Sobering day.
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True, but let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater. winning the white house is massive and thanks to the precedent setting from the oompa loompa Biden should feel free to do whatever the fucks he wants via exec orders, appointments, etc. yeah the dems should have dunked it, but be happy with what you got. it also puts the pubs in a fork in the road for '24. do they go moderate or more Trumpism? i think it'll cause some distress on their side either way
 
I eagerly await the same Bad Candidate analysis by the centrists Dems for Biden that they used on Hillary
 
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