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Non-Political Coronavirus Thread

There’s definitely a level of anxiety that even though I’m vaccinated i still don’t feel totally comfortable doing things I did even 12 months ago with a mask, like grocery shopping. That’s more psychological than anything rational. The more I get out there it’ll dissipate.

Very soon we’ll get to the point that life moves on and cases/deaths will remain higher than they should be due to morons. But at that point fuck em if it’s their own fault for not vaxxing. Cap the hospital beds available for covid and bar the doors (note: I know they can’t do this)
 
JuiceCrewAllStar said:
I think what's frustrating to me about this line of thinking is that the risk of dying in, say, a car accident is way higher than dying from covid
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The death rate per capita was 10 times larger for Covid than auto accidents in 2020. And that's with all the precautions/lock downs that took place.
 
JuiceCrewAllStar said:
that second sentence is just untrue

outdoor transmission really only occurs if you're having a prolonged, physically close, unmasked interaction with someone and I feel that has been known since last summer, or at least highly, highly likely since "knowing" is too high of a threshold -- similarly, the transmission not being attributed to surfaces has been highly, highly likely since around the same time
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Right, that's why a bunch of states had outdoor gathering restrictions, social distancing requirements, and mask mandates in place for most of last year. It certainly wasn't an accepted fact it was safe to go out and have a beer on the brewery patio.
 
06deacon said:
I agree with your last paragraph. Having said that, I think you have to factor in more than just death as a negative outcome from covid in those odds in your first sentence. Like if you get so sick that you’re on a ventilator for a month. Or have a debilitating in-bed illness for a week. Or be a long hauler with scarred lungs etc that will transform your life going forward. Sure you didn’t die I suppose but it’s pretty disruptive. I don’t particularly fear dying but I don’t want any of those outcomes either and don’t want to contribute to spreading those outcomes to others.
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feel like the severity spectrum applies to the car analogy
 
DistrictDeacon said:
The death rate per capita was 10 times larger for Covid than auto accidents in 2020. And that's with all the precautions/lock downs that took place.
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I'm talking about now in a world with so many vaccinated people, not what we should have done last fall
 
DistrictDeacon said:
Right, that's why a bunch of states had outdoor gathering restrictions, social distancing requirements, and mask mandates in place for most of last year. It certainly wasn't an accepted fact it was safe to go out and have a beer on the brewery patio.
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there were also people wiping down the the checkout lane after every customer for months and that probably stopped nary a single Covid transmission

there was tons of covid theater the entire last 14 months (and lots of appropriate restrictions)

I'm just tired of being talked down to by the people making the decision -- they say follow the science, but don't talk about the science -- the actual science showed that the constant cleaning and the the outdoor transmission among passerby was pretty much nil
 
JuiceCrewAllStar said:
there were also people wiping down the the checkout lane after every customer for months and that probably stopped nary a single Covid transmission

there was tons of covid theater the entire last 14 months (and lots of appropriate restrictions)

I'm just tired of being talked down to by the people making the decision -- they say follow the science, but don't talk about the science -- the actual science showed that the constant cleaning and the the outdoor transmission among passerby was pretty much nil
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Yeah, but you didn't catch a common cold or a norovirus either !
 
DistrictDeacon said:
The death rate per capita was 10 times larger for Covid than auto accidents in 2020. And that's with all the precautions/lock downs that took place.
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for all ages, yes

For 75+, more like 75 times larger

for 18-29, more deaths in auto accidents than due to Covid-19
 
further, the same governments driven by science opened up indoor dining before they opened up some public parks here Chicago

it was never about given supremacy to science alone -- it was also concerned about appearances and economic concerns with science where convenient
 
the vaccine rollout to poorer countries being held up by profit-seeking behavior is shameful
 
I feel like this thread is way too long all that needed to be said was said a long time ago. “This gives the smell of their typical pending milkwich snowstorm school closings that ends up being 45 degrees and sunny. It's hard to believe what comes out of China and our media. Wash your hands - you'll be fine. Just my 2 cents. It's the flu with a name. There have been bad cases of unnamed flu in previous years and nobody cared much. Marketing is everything. Kung Flu”
 
Amazingly it took the UK until a couple days ago to put India on the Do Not Travel list.

We should be at a point to start sending excess vaccine supply to India soon.
 
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