If somebody has access to Steve Wiseman's column in the Charlotte Observer that was put up in the last hour or so, according to that, we should feel honored if App would honor us with the favor of a tilt or two upon the gridiron in future years as the leaves begin to turn.
I don’t think I’ve ever watched BTN unless our Indiana game was on it. Do they ever have good games? Seems like they’re usually on Fox.
So he admits up front that the major driver of this stuff is football and yet he somehow, with a straight face, claims that Duke is in the second tier of teams. Duke has academic prestige and basketball, but they couldn't have been any worse in football - pretty much forever. I don't follow the N&O but I suspect he's a Duke beat writer or Duke homer
I don’t disagree with that but Duke has historically been better at football than we have- though not by much. They are more attractive than we are for a mega conference due to basketball, academic prestige, and the UNC rivalry. I don’t agree with this notion Duke is the hardest football job in the ACC- it’s Wake. Like it or not - they are a national brand and have an easier time recruiting than we do- they’re recruiting nationally against Stanford and they tend to their fair share of NC kids. We’re getting there but not there yet. Oh yeah- and it doesn’t hurt they allow athletes to take half their classes at NCCU.
I don’t disagree with that but Duke has historically been better at football than we have- though not by much. They are more attractive than we are for a mega conference due to basketball, academic prestige, and the UNC rivalry. I don’t agree with this notion Duke is the hardest football job in the ACC- it’s Wake. Like it or not - they are a national brand and have an easier time recruiting than we do- they’re recruiting nationally against Stanford and they tend to their fair share of NC kids. We’re getting there but not there yet. Oh yeah- and it doesn’t hurt they allow athletes to take half their classes at NCCU.
“I mean, Purdue’s facilities, Indiana’s facilities, Northwestern’s facilities, blow anybody in the Pac-12 out of the water,” Herbstreit said Mad Dog Unleashed on Sirius XM. “If you’re a recruit and you go on a trip to Bloomington, Indiana, you would be blown away if you saw the facilities in Indiana.”
Host Chris Russo pushed back on the notion that Indiana might have better facilities than USC and UCLA.
“The Indiana facilities are that much better than some of the facilities in the Pac-12?,” Russo asked.
“Yes, Northwestern, Indiana, Purdue, I’m talking about a lower tier, or what is perceived to be the lower tier level (of the Big Ten),” Herbstreit said. “Ohio State, Michigan, the big boys, Nebraska, forget about them, I’m talking middle of the road, lower tier because of that amount of money that is brought into the Big Ten.
“And you should see what the Arkansas and South Carolina facilities are (in the SEC). And then you’re gonna go on a recruiting trip to USC and you just left South Carolina, let alone LSU, Alabama, Texas A&M, Auburn, the big boys. I mean, if you go to South Carolina, and all of a sudden you go to USC, it’s night and day. It’s very, very hard to compete with what the SEC and the Big Ten are cranking out from a revenue standpoint.
“I think what’s going to happen is this new world is going to essentially be of about 50 to 55 to 60 teams. I don’t know who’s going to be involved in it. But I think that’s going to become what we know as Power Five, Division I college football. And then whoever’s doesn’t make the cut. You mentioned maybe an Arizona, maybe a Wake Forest, whoever it is, doesn’t make the cut and doesn’t get into this new world, that I think we’re going to find like MAC football: Miami, Ohio, Western Michigan, where do they go? Where does Conference USA go? Right?
“I think they’ll go into their own division. I think they’ll add a division. So you have Division I, and let’s call (the next one) 1A … They can create their own playoff. We have a playoff in 1AA and we have a playoff in Division III. So I think that world gets left out, they’re frustrated, their fans are mad. But everybody can’t go to the big, big world. They just can’t. Everybody can’t be involved. And so people are going to be really frustrated with this. And there’s nothing we can do about it.”
They won the Coastal in 2013 when we were at our lowest point this millennia. They passed us 2012-2016 then we’ve been better since.
Clawson shit talking Herbie after making the ACC championship game last year was incredible.
Also if this doesn’t get figured out, and we make the ACC championship game again, then what? We going to be left out of the discussions after doing it again? I can’t wait for this season to start and start pounding some of these teams, and an SEC road game in September in what will likely be on ESPN is a great time to start.
Let's just go with the relegation model from P5 Division 1+ all the way down to Division 3