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Role of the Media

Louis Gossett Jr said:
I mean Fox News doesn’t rely on advertising they rely on all of us paying for it so that it appears on cable packages and the cable companies don’t get yelled at by the deplorable shit heads and grandpa.
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Unfortunately, grandpa is a deplorable shit head.
 
birdman said:
BBC
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I think in Britain.

But for US website access they apparently utilize various vendors which indeed depend on advertising money. I avoid clicking on their videos which mostly require an ad to be played first. And there are some embedded ads on the page.
 
ConnorEl said:
I think in Britain.

But for US website access they apparently utilize various vendors which indeed depend on advertising money. I avoid clicking on their videos which mostly require an ad to be played first. And there are some embedded ads on the page.
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It’s been a non profit non comercial driven enterprise in the UK for 75 years. It’s a model that could work.
 
Ranking people instead of addressing their problems is American AF.
 
I’m not following y’all.

So he was known to authorities and considered to be a troubled or at risk person…and that in itself is problematic?
 
I’ve noticed some tweets from DeSantis and Gaetz asking people to donate to the “hero” murderer’s legal fund. Guess there’s always a new grift. Kill a homeless person, and your ship comes in.
 
ConnorEl said:
I’m not following y’all.

So he was known to authorities and considered to be a troubled or at risk person…and that in itself is problematic?
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What did they do with that knowledge?

In the wake of Mr. Neely’s death, the administration of Mayor Eric Adams has been criticized by advocates for homeless people and left-leaning political opponents who say the killing highlights deep problems in the city’s support systems for homeless people and those with mental illness.


At a news conference on Thursday, Councilwoman Pierina Sanchez, referring to Mr. Neely’s presence on the list, said: “Our city knew exactly who Jordan was, where he was and what his history was. And yet we failed him.”


But as officials describe it, the task force and the Top 50 list were formed precisely for the people whom the system had failed time and again. The death of Mr. Neely, 30, who had been homeless for years, also shows the limits of the tools the task force has at its disposal and the difficulty of keeping track of people who are transient and elusive, let alone getting them to accept help.
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And no matter what, the list doesn't seem to indicate he was a threat to others and he didn't deserve to die.
 
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It always comes out after the fact that well he had a troubled past, a record etc, but this is never info the killer had. The murderer purely acted on what they saw right then and there.
 
ConnorEl said:
I’m not following y’all.

So he was known to authorities and considered to be a troubled or at risk person…and that in itself is problematic?
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Yeah me neither. Also the NYT got the scooooop and wrote a story about it.
 
BarcaDeac said:
It always comes out after the fact that well he had a troubled past, a record etc, but this is never info the killer had. The murderer purely acted on what they saw right then and there.
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Weren’t therepeople talking about Neely’s life story within hours of his death. Like how his mom died and how he was a Michael Jackson impersonator on the subway.
 
BiffTannen said:
Weren’t therepeople talking about Neely’s life story within hours of his death. Like how his mom died and how he was a Michael Jackson impersonator on the subway.
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Well sure when you’ve got the whole NY media at your disposal vs some asshole’s snap judgement over what he perceives is the “right thing to do.”
 
PhDeac said:
What did they do with that knowledge?



And no matter what, the list doesn't seem to indicate he was a threat to others and he didn't deserve to die.
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BarcaDeac said:
It always comes out after the fact that well he had a troubled past, a record etc, but this is never info the killer had. The murderer purely acted on what they saw right then and there.
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Of course the fact that he was known to authorities and considered to be homeless and at risk doesn’t imply he “deserved” to die. I don’t think acknowledging the first in any way implies the latter.

In my work I come across at times “at risk” folks who for various reasons won’t accept certain advice or helps and prefer to maintain their freedoms in ways most of us would not choose. Of course it doesn’t mean they deserve to die in a chokehold. But I don’t see acknowledging he was so known to be anything more than an opportunity for reflection regarding the limitations that exist in our ability to help or protect “at risk” people.
 
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