If she can get into WF, she should easliy be able to get into UNC (assuming you are from NC). UNC-W seems to be an up and coming state school. In improvements at ASU, UNC-C and UNC-W give NC kids much better choices now than they had 20 years ago.
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This is not really true, as UNC-CH is more difficult to get into if you're 1) female 2) from a county with a population of more than 100K.
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State Schools for the win. WF isn't worth the money
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It depends on what you're looking for. Some kids don't do well in huge state schools.
There are lots of good liberal arts schools out there that don't cost an arm and a leg.
Unfortunately, my kid's not going to any of those.
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our kid is about to start at Liberty in a couple weeks. Any suggestions for party sites slash frats that he should look into rushing?
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Elon backwards is Nole. Fuck them.
What do you have against Djokovic?
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Ah, yes. More tiers talk. Since someone brought up kids from "Northern" families choosing certain schools in North Carolina here's the view of a parent with two in college and how kids/families from one so called elite private school from a Northen metro tend to see the proverbial lay of the land in North Carolina. Once you get out of the dook UNC "tier" kids are more apt to be picking based on what they like vs. some sense of prestige. We are in the Midwest, so we have more kids who look West than people who live out on the East Coast. And I'd say kids inclined to leave the area who think West don't much think about the East. Popular West applies are like UCLA, USC, LMU, Colorado College, Washington, Oregon, Reed, USD and the whole Claremont McKenna quadrant of schools. Obviously Stanford but very few get in.
1 - dook. Son has five classmates going there. Daughter probably had three. Considered like an Ivy League school. Loads of applicants every year. Competition is sort of Ivies, Northwestern, Stanford, Georgetown, UNC, Vandy.
2 - UNC. Son has a friend going on a Morehead. The second Morehead in the last 4 years from his school. Extremely popular school for kids to try and gain admission. Hard to get in. Usually 1-2 a year go. And some are picking UNC over an Ivy. Competition is like dook, Ivies, USoCal, Michigan, UVa
3 - Wake. Schools sends 1-2 a year. Usually these are "good fit" kids. Solid all arounders. More popular than in the past but still not a big time apply given options like BC (more urban) and Notre Dame (closer to home with more local parents who went there) are the competition and Wake's reputation (while much improved over the last two decades) still lags those other options up here. I fight the good fight when asked for an opinion. I would say kids who apply to dook and UNC often do not even apply to Wake (view it as a tier beneath them). I think Wake does a solid job of not trying to position itself vis a vis those schools. More of a here is who we are. We are not dook. If you like it great. If not fine. Competition is are schools like Tulane, BC, Notre Dame, Richmond, etc.
4 - Davidson. A kid every other year or so. If a kid wants small and liberal arts in that part of the country it is a good draw. Viewed as academically elite (probably more so than Wake) but not very fun (vs. Wake). Competition is probably like Carleton, Weslyan, Middlebury, etc.
5 - Elon and High Point. Each increasingly popular. Elon in particular. I think they have taken 7-8 kids over the last couple of years. And the kids who go are often choosing those schools over really good schools closer to home. Son had a friend over last night who is headed there.
Everyone else. I'm not sure many people up here even know NC State exists. Other directional schools, not surprisingly, are totally irrelevant up here as a draw bc every state has them.
One school gaining big time in popularity to apply is Miami (FL).
1 - dook. Son has five classmates going there. Daughter probably had three. Considered like an Ivy League school. Loads of applicants every year. Competition is sort of Ivies, Northwestern, Stanford, Georgetown, UNC, Vandy.
2 - UNC. Son has a friend going on a Morehead. The second Morehead in the last 4 years from his school. Extremely popular school for kids to try and gain admission. Hard to get in. Usually 1-2 a year go. And some are picking UNC over an Ivy. Competition is like dook, Ivies, USoCal, Michigan, UVa
3 - Wake. Schools sends 1-2 a year. Usually these are "good fit" kids. Solid all arounders. More popular than in the past but still not a big time apply given options like BC (more urban) and Notre Dame (closer to home with more local parents who went there) are the competition and Wake's reputation (while much improved over the last two decades) still lags those other options up here. I fight the good fight when asked for an opinion. I would say kids who apply to dook and UNC often do not even apply to Wake (view it as a tier beneath them). I think Wake does a solid job of not trying to position itself vis a vis those schools. More of a here is who we are. We are not dook. If you like it great. If not fine. Competition is are schools like Tulane, BC, Notre Dame, Richmond, etc.
4 - Davidson. A kid every other year or so. If a kid wants small and liberal arts in that part of the country it is a good draw. Viewed as academically elite (probably more so than Wake) but not very fun (vs. Wake). Competition is probably like Carleton, Weslyan, Middlebury, etc.
5 - Elon and High Point. Each increasingly popular. Elon in particular. I think they have taken 7-8 kids over the last couple of years. And the kids who go are often choosing those schools over really good schools closer to home. Son had a friend over last night who is headed there.
Everyone else. I'm not sure many people up here even know NC State exists. Other directional schools, not surprisingly, are totally irrelevant up here as a draw bc every state has them.
One school gaining big time in popularity to apply is Miami (FL).
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That’s a case of Southern Tier Pumking from DeacMan. Keep it coming guys
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Wow UNC's out of state acceptance rate is only 8%. Wake's (overall) is 25%. We are indeed 3rd tier, at best.
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What does shitty beer have to do with anything?
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I went to App. Partied my ass off. Awesome tailgating. Fun skiing. Hot chicks everywhere. Didn’t do hardly Jack shit worth of studying. Cheap tuition. Walked out with two undergrads and a Masters. One of the best decisions I’ve ever made.
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Do they have raw numbers around out of state applications? I assume they get a ton. But yeah it’s insanely hard to get accepted.
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I’d love to see Wake position to be more competitive for in-state students honestly. NC is going to be churning out a lot of high caliber students in the coming years with the population growth among high earning/highly educated pop.
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I bet nobody asks Ben Sutton what his GPA was at Wake nor what tier his Wake Forest law degree was?