Dali Llama
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Bulls are just fun to watch.
nah they are going to break through this year and definitely not getting sent home in round 1The paul george trade might be one of the worst trades ever
SGA plus 5 five first round picks
The paul george trade might be one of the worst trades ever
SGA plus 5 five first round picks
Gobert has salvaged things from being at the top of the worst trade ever conversation not too long ago, with a lot of help from Ant
I think Naz Reid is Towns' insurance. And Kessler didn't even start most of the year for Utah. I don't think either one of those guys could be the rim protector on a top 5 defense and a DPOYC the way Gobert is.I guess. But you could also argue that they’d have been better off with Walker Kessler and all those four first round picks given Naz Reid’s emergence.
Think its premature to say the Gobert trade ended up being solid for Minnesota. He's 31, and Wolves still haven't won a playoff series in 20 years. They play the Suns this year, and the Suns are favored. If Wolves lose in the first round again, the Gobert trade is not going to look so solid. Then again, if the Wolves beat the Suns and then win the next series (which likely would be against the Nugs) to advance to the WC Finals, the argument in support of the trade looks a lot stronger.I think Naz Reid is Towns' insurance. And Kessler didn't even start most of the year for Utah. I don't think either one of those guys could be the rim protector on a top 5 defense and a DPOYC the way Gobert is.
I think the trade ended up being pretty solid. Its a bit like the trade the Bucks made for Holliday- they gave up a shit-ton, but the ultimately won the title because of the trade. The Gobert trade puts the TWolves in the conversation for a title. If they win in the next 2-3 years, it clearly was the right choice. But for Minnesota, even if they are just a top 3 Western Conference team for the next 3 years, that probably makes the trade worth it.
I think the Wolves have been so bad that a trade that puts them in the top 3 in the west for several years is worth it. Of course, if they are top 3 but lose in the 1st round all 3 years, that changes the calculus. But I would be fairly shocked if that happens. I'm a big believer in Edwards.Think its premature to say the Gobert trade ended up being solid for Minnesota. He's 31, and Wolves still haven't won a playoff series in 20 years. They play the Suns this year, and the Suns are favored. If Wolves lose in the first round again, the Gobert trade is not going to look so solid. Then again, if the Wolves beat the Suns and then win the next series (which likely would be against the Nugs) to advance to the WC Finals, the argument in support of the trade looks a lot stronger.
FWIW, it really is sad to look at the Wolves playoff history. That franchise has made the playoffs 11 times. Ten of those eleven, the Wolves managed to lose their first round series. That really is quite incredible. The one exception is 2004, when Garnett led the Wolves to the WC finals only to lose to the Lakers in 6 games. 2-11 all time in playoff series has got to be close to the worst record of any team in the four major sports. Group that tragic playoff history with the Vikings, Twins, and even the Minnesota Wild (they have lost their last seven first round series), and that area has suffered playoff heartbreak after playoff heartbreak.
All these dudes are so much bigger and taller than Bam Adebayo. I don't buy that he is 255. And he's nowhere close to 6'10.I think Naz Reid is Towns' insurance. And Kessler didn't even start most of the year for Utah. I don't think either one of those guys could be the rim protector on a top 5 defense and a DPOYC the way Gobert is.
I think the trade ended up being pretty solid. Its a bit like the trade the Bucks made for Holliday- they gave up a shit-ton, but the ultimately won the title because of the trade. The Gobert trade puts the TWolves in the conversation for a title. If they win in the next 2-3 years, it clearly was the right choice. But for Minnesota, even if they are just a top 3 Western Conference team for the next 3 years, that probably makes the trade worth it.