EatLeadCommie
Tommy Elrod
How soon we forget...
Think about them for a bit today.
Think about them for a bit today.
yeah, that too LK...I think that gets glossed over since it was McVeigh's reason for blowing up the Murrah building.
My grandfather is buried right across from Alfred Murrah's son. Across the thin street in the cemetery from my granddad's grave is also a gravesite for 2 young kids. The tombstone is adorned with a little carving of Barney and pictures of the kids, both of whom died on April 19, 1995.*
*Note, my granddad was not hurt in the bombings, but his building was 2 buildings away. The building between his and the Murrah building was 7 stories tall and he was on the 7th floor. When the explosion occurred, he was jostled out of his chair in his office and looked out the window to see a lot of glass falling from above. He and others went to the board room a few floors above and caught the view. My grandmother was in Edmond at the time and heard the explosion when it happened.
yeah, that too LK...I think that gets glossed over since it was McVeigh's reason for blowing up the Murrah building.
My grandfather is buried right across from Alfred Murrah's son. Across the thin street in the cemetery from my granddad's grave is also a gravesite for 2 young kids. The tombstone is adorned with a little carving of Barney and pictures of the kids, both of whom died on April 19, 1995.*
*Note, my granddad was not hurt in the bombings, but his building was 2 buildings away. The building between his and the Murrah building was 7 stories tall and he was on the 7th floor. When the explosion occurred, he was jostled out of his chair in his office and looked out the window to see a lot of glass falling from above. He and others went to the board room a few floors above and caught the view. My grandmother was in Edmond at the time and heard the explosion when it happened.
:rulz:
As someone with a 4 and 2 year old at home who will be excited when Daddy gets home, I feel like someone just punched me in the stomach. I'll never understand how anyone can be so blinded by hate, anger, whatever, that they'd perpetrate something knowing full well children will be their victims.
No it wasn't the only reason...Ruby Ridge was another one...but it was apparently the prime motivation. I think Snell was already in jail in April 1985, so maybe you have your dates mixed up.
This is something that permeates daily life every day in federal buildings. The sad thing is that without any exception that I can think of, the daycare centers which are in federal buildings are all on the ground/first floor. In the case of the Murrah building, the day care center bore the brunt of McVeigh's attack. As worthless and evil a bastard as he was, I still would rather have him sitting in misery in Super Max like his buddy Terry Nichols, Robert Hanssen, Eric Rudolph, and Ranzi Yusef. Death was too easy an out for him.
This was one of the worst tragedies ever that could have been prevented. A little restraint at Waco and Ruby Ridge and McVeigh may not have lost it.
This was one of the worst tragedies ever that could have been prevented. A little restraint at Waco and Ruby Ridge and McVeigh may not have lost it.
First of all it was lucky that Waco wasn't destroyed the day they opened fire on the ATF officers. Koresh created the entire problem and wasn't going to give up.
Every expert who has studied Waco agrees that the fires, etc. were started by Koresh's people.
Finally, McVeigh was a devotee of The Turner Diaries. He gave out copies to Army budies. The Turner Diaries talk about creating a race war by acts of intentional violence.
McVeigh celebrated racist groups like the CSA and the Order. Wayne Snell was his other hero and wrote him multiple times on death row.
The Murrah Building wasn't by accident. Snell was part of a plot to blow it up long before McVeigh did. Snell was a direct influence on the OKC bombing.
McViegh would have found another excuse.
Sorry, but I'm not buying into that. That's not much different from saying we brought 9/11 on ourselves through our support of Israel, etc... You can be outraged over government actions and not resort to violence. And certainly if you must engage in violence, you can choose to target people who are actually responsible and not go the chickenshit route by killing innocent civilians.