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Ann Romney -time for a "grown-up"

jhmd2000 said:
Sucks when you get cut by your own knife, doesn't it?

Ann Romney says we need grown-ups in Washington (as if we don't). The usual suspects post the usual ad hominem attacks that any (and I do mean any) criticism against the President is a coy walk around the racist barn. My post was a caricature of practically everything RJ said last week. If the left doesn't like it, then maybe the left should stop doing it at every turn.
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Oh, I see your clever caricature there. :rolleyes:

gimme a break jhmd. You meant that shit straight up, you aren't that clever. The woman has a goofy looking smile where she scrunches her nose up, like she smells something unpleasant. I made a joke about it, and you played the MS card as you have done several times during this campaign - whenever you feel you need to. I've never seriously disparaged Ann Romney - because I couldn't give less of a shit about her. You love that she had MS, because she can be a victim and a hero and a survivor and all that shit all at once. You are looking so hard for some shit like that to 'humanize' the super-privileged candidate and his wife. Socioeconomically they are light years from you and me and most of America, while the Obama's are not. That relate-ability gap irritates and contracts Republican sphincters, and you can't stand it, so you play the MS card to loosen the grip on your head.
 
jhmd2000 said:
You guys are right. Romney and Ryan's wives have not been treated with any disrespect at all by the left.

cc: Jason Biggs
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We agree. Talking about spouses of politicians is way out of bounds.

Signed,

The entire right-wing blogosphere and the right-wing talk radio industry.
 
DeaconSig said:
We agree. Talking about spouses of politicians is way out of bounds.

Signed,

The entire right-wing blogosphere and the right-wing talk radio industry.
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Wait, can we still make jokes about Newt's (current) wife? I mean, she's scary.

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Yep, you really need to caricature a convention when the VP lies throughout his entire speech and the top dog doesn't say anything.

As to the Obama's being like us economically, they may have been a decade ago, but for the past eight years or more they have routinely made in the millions per year.

jhmd personifies the vitriolic hatred Bill Clinton spoke about last night. It's silly. It's classless and it's sick.
 
DeaconSig said:
We agree. Talking about spouses of politicians is way out of bounds.

Signed,

The entire right-wing blogosphere and the right-wing talk radio industry.
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I stopped listening to Rush Limbaugh decades ago when he started making fun of Kitty Dukakis' alcoholism.
 
RJKarl said:
Yep, you really need to caricature a convention when the VP lies throughout his entire speech and the top dog doesn't say anything.

As to the Obama's being like us economically, they may have been a decade ago, but for the past eight years or more they have routinely made in the millions per year.

jhmd personifies the vitriolic hatred Bill Clinton spoke about last night. It's silly. It's classless and it's sick.
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dude both of them grew up in firmly in the middle class. That's what I mean. No shit they make millions now, but their core beliefs are rooted there
 
Absolutley they did, but unlike what jhmd and other rabid rwers say they don't hate people who made it financially and socially.
 
RJKarl said:
Absolutley they did, but unlike what jhmd and other rabid rwers say they don't hate people who made it financially and socially.
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No. They just look down on them dismissively by saying they cling to their guns, religion and xenophobia.
 
DeaconSig said:
I thought you respected people who told the truth?
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Getting caught on a hot mic is different from genuine candor. When he got caught a) telling the base how little regard he has for the people they all purport to help, b) whispering how "flexible" he will be after the election or c) went off TPOTUS with the "you didn't build that" moment; he's telling the truth. I hope he's that honest tonight.

I've said before I like Obama as a person. He seems like a pretty good guy and I think Michelle's got a great story to tell as well. I genuinely enjoyed her speech because it was authentic and they are a real inspiration to talented, hard-working people who just need a chance. Done and done.

His ideas, on the other hand, are naieve and short-sighted. GM might be healthier than when he took office, but when you only transfer their bad financial management on to our grandchildren through deficit spending, you have moved a problem, not solved it.
 
but the people he was talking about do cling to guns, religion and xenophobia. you may not like that the people who share your political beliefs are as sophisticated as kenny powers, but that doesn't make it false.
 
Milhouse said:
but the people he was talking about do cling to guns, religion and xenophobia. you may not like that the people who share your political beliefs are as sophisticated as kenny powers, but that doesn't make it false.
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That's why SuperPAC ads say the Kenyan Muslim wants to take away their guns.
 
Milhouse said:
but the people he was talking about do cling to guns, religion and xenophobia. you may not like that the people who share your political beliefs are as sophisticated as kenny powers, but that doesn't make it false.
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I would say that George Will's sophistication exceeds that of Mr. Powers, and I would say that Mr. Powers' own sophistication far exceeds that of the people who think Obama is going to put gas in their car and take care of their mortgage. If you drill down past the archetypal dependentia and Ruby Ridge separatists, you get back to the ideas.

I think Romney's ideas are more sophisticated than grow the dependency, grow the debt, kick the can down the road and whatever goes wrong blame my predecessor. The President had a window (honeymoon + mandate + both Houses of Congress) and he spent it on a clumsy Stimulus program that didn't work (and it's okay to be honest about that) and a vanity health care overhaul that won't even kick in effect until what would be his second term (hardly a near-term fix for the "worst flooding in New Orleans since 9/11", or whatever else has kept the magical stampede of rainbow-farting unicorns from fulfilling all those Grant Park promises). The President HAD a window, and now HAS a record to be judged on. What do we have?

A dead OBL.
A mint-condition blue-ink original of the Simpson-Bowles Commission, marred only by the skidmarks it incurred upon being shelved so quickly.
Worse unemployment now than when he took over.
An American auto industry spared the consequences of its own foolish decision by the compounded foolish decision to borrow more money to transfer the problem to posterity.
$3B A DAY in deficit spending.
A Senate that hasn't passed a budget since Wake was in the NCAAT.

I think Romney will do better.
 
unemployment is not worse than when he took over. Pulling a number on inauguration day when unemployment was increasing 0.5% per month isn't an accurate description.

Now it might not be back where we want it, but it has improved from the trough of the 08-09 massive recession.
 
ChrisL68 said:
unemployment is not worse than when he took over. Pulling a number on inauguration day when unemployment was dropping 0.5% per month isn't an accurate description.
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Right, but then four years happened. What did he do with it, is what I ask?
 
jhmd2000 said:
Right, but then four years happened. What did he do with it, is what I ask?
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Tried to deal with the massive state and local austerity movement that caused public employment levels to plummet? Private sector job recovery is about on par with other post recession periods.
 
ChrisL68 said:
Tried to deal with the massive state and local austerity movement that caused public employment levels to plummet? Private sector job recovery is about on par with other post recession periods.
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So...the private sector is doing fine, after all? Good to know.
 
jhmd, my man, you are talking out of both sides of your mouth here buddy. You decry the presidents unemployment numbers, yet you support candidates who's plan is to slash gov spending and revenue - and then hope for the best. seriously, that's the plan - hope for sunshine, based on an economic theory that is dubious at best. Ronald Reagan did not slash gov spending and taxes at the same time, he increased spending - deficit spending. So you are posting here that Romney's ideas are more "sophisticated" but when you actually look at them, they are not sophisticated at all. They're sophomoric. They're based on an assumption that American businesses are strapped for cash and cannot expand until they are given tax relief, which simply is not true. They are based on an assumption that American investors are strapped for cash and cannot invest until they get some relief, which is not true. They lack demand for goods and services.

The debt would have blown up the way it did no matter what - that is what happens in massive economic contractions. No one in their right mind would have just let the economy slip into full-blown depression. No one, including Ronald Reagan. It sucks, indeed, but it's the fact jack. 50 years of consumer debt, which led to wonderful growth and expansion of the economy, is over. Time for households to pay it down - which stifles demand, which stifles growth, which stifles employment. The government has the power to stave off depression with spending, and it is in all of our best interests for them to do so.
 
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