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Pennyslvania Did the Right Thing Regarding Voter ID Law

Most people (especially in cities) can walk to their polling places.
 
2&2 Slider To Leyritz said:
Nice, when I file my 1040 this year I will just send it in with a few thousand ID cards.

ETA: If traveling to get an ID card is a tax, then so is traveling to vote, so the government needs to provide a mobile voting booth that will come to my house.
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The tax in my opinion is in obtaining the required documents to get an ID.
 
A person providing a birth certificate and one of about 10 other forms of acceptible documentation (including a school transcript or marriage certificate) in order to get an ID card is a tax? I just do not understand why it is so offensive to ask that people take even the most minimal of steps on their own behalf, as opposed to just showing up and saying "hey, you best believe it's me."
 
the spirit of the law is to prevent the Government from making voting an unduly difficult process

why is this hard to understand?
 
What part of ZERO in PA and almost every other state don't you understand?

Let's say it only costs a state $1,000,000/year to produce these "free IDs". That would pay about 15 teachers, cops or other employees.

As a fiscal conservative, you should look at the cost/benefit analysis. In PA why would you waste the money when you could spend it in much better ways?
 
ImTheCaptain said:
the spirit of the law is to prevent the Government from making voting an unduly difficult process

why is this hard to understand?
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I understand and agree with the spirit of the law. But nobody has yet to explain how requiring an ID card in the 21st century is unduly difficult for anyone but the most random of outliers.
 
RJKarl said:
What part of ZERO in PA and almost every other state don't you understand?

Let's say it only costs a state $1,000,000/year to produce these "free IDs". That would pay about 15 teachers, cops or other employees.

As a fiscal conservative, you should look at the cost/benefit analysis. In PA why would you waste the money when you could spend it in much better ways?
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I'm sure you could find electoral candidates who would be more than willing to fund and publicize their funding of the production of ID cards. Obama's campaign would be all over that shit.
 
It's not "random outiliers". It's over 10,000,000 people.
 
No, it is 10 million people who don't currently have ID cards because they don't have any need for one. The vast majority of those people could go pick up a free one if they wanted to.
 
2&2 Slider To Leyritz said:
I'm sure you could find electoral candidates who would be more than willing to fund and publicize their funding of the production of ID cards. Obama's campaign would be all over that shit.
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No he wouldn't. He's categorically against them.

WHY would you support WASTING millions of dollars in every state?

Even the REPUBLICAN LAWYERS ASSOCIATION says your odds of being the victim of voter impersonation is 1 in 15,000,000.
 
Because of the boogeyman who is sleeping under their beds.
 
BeachBumDeac said:
No, you didn't.
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Some truths are self-evident. If you think that political parties always maturely accept the outcome of an election and never attempt to undermine it, I politely direct your attention to the 2000 election. Voting is important, and when a reasonable safeguard prevalent in every other (and far less significant) norms of adult behavior is readily available, we should use it. But by all means, keep repeating the mantra you've been taught. Common sense and human experience stand no chance against your beloved talking points.
 
Shorty said:
You have absolutely no idea how many people can walk to their polling place and I'm certain you spent zero time looking it up before you posted this ridiculous assertion as if it were fact.
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Here is one of thousands of such pieces of evidence:

"On the map, green shading means more than 66.6 percent of registered voters live within a half mile of the new polling location. Yellow means between 33.3 and 66.6 percent of registered voters living within a half mile of the new polling location. Red means less than 33.3 percent of registered voters live within a half mile of the new polling location." - Omaha
 
jhmd2000 said:
Some truths are self-evident. If you think that political parties always maturely accept the outcome of an election and never attempt to undermine it, I politely direct your attention to the 2000 election. Voting is important, and when a reasonable safeguard prevalent in every other (and far less significant) norms of adult behavior is readily available, we should use it. But by all means, keep repeating the mantra you've been taught. Common sense and human experience stand no chance against your beloved talking points.
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Voting is important but the risk to the integrity is non-existent, especially in PA where there's literally never been a problem.
 
ImTheCaptain said:
Voting is important but the risk to the integrity is non-existent, especially in PA where there's literally never been a problem.
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I find the certainty of this amusing. A thirteen year old with a beard could walk into a voting booth, claim to be his Dad (deployed to Afghanistan), and absolutely no one on Earth would know any better. Then, now or everafter. That's the WHOLE POINT.
 
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