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Barack Obama v. Jeff [Redacted]

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Obama -- Coming out of relatively nowhere, Barack Obama stormed to the Presidency after an unremarkable tenure as the junior Senator from Illinois. He brought with him the hope of changing the American political culture and creating a government more responsive and adaptable to the needs of the people. His predecessor was widely regarded as having mismanaged the country from 2000 to 2008 and had left Obama with a sizable mess to clean up. This included two wars, a faltering economy, and a financial sector that was crooked and diseased. Some of his personnel choices were somewhat questionable, such as appointing the thuggish Rahm Emmanuel as chief-of-staff and nominating the tax-challenged Tim Geithner as Treasury Secretary. Nevertheless, many were encouraged by him retaining Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State and Robert Gates as Secretary of Defense.

Obama opened up with a big disappointment: an expensive stimulus package that failed to make an appreciable dent in the nation's unemployment rate. Later in the first half of his term he pulled off a dubious success with the narrow passage of a generally unpopular healthcare reform bill. Midway through his first term he tasted a real political catastrophe with the midterm election of 2010 (this included giving up the 60 seat majority in the Senate to a Republican from Massachusetts. Ouch.) After this he enjoyed a real success with the killing of Osama Bin Laden. Alas, this success was followed with more defeats: the near government shutdown in April, the drawn out debt ceiling negotiations from May to August, and the downgrade of the nation's credit rating by S&P. The promises of reforming the American political system to something more open and transparent as well as improving Washington's political culture have gone unfulfilled. Now President Obama moves into his fourth year with dwindling public support, continued economic malaise, and having few viable options to solve either problem due to his massive deficit spending early on. But he's got one thing going for him. The upcoming slate of Republican challengers look about as weak as they could possibly be.


[Redacted] -- Coming out of relatively nowhere, Jeff [Redacted] suddenly became the head basketball coach at Wake Forest after an unremarkable (indeed, downright bad) tenure as the head coach of the University of Colorado. He brought with him the hope of changing the Wake Forest basketball culture and creating an actual offense that was more responsive and adaptable to opposing defenses. His predecessor (the Prosser/Gaudio regime) was widely regarded as having mismanaged the program from 2001 to 2010 and had left [Redacted] with a sizable mess to clean up. This included an injured PG, an expelled C, and a PF who was fat and diseased. Some of his personnel choices were somewhat questionable, such as re-recruiting the thuggish Melvin Tabb and hyping the mentally challenged Ty Walker as a central part of the team's strategy. Nevertheless, many were encouraged by him retaining the recruiting class that Dino Gaudio had assembled and Jeff Battle as an assistant coach.

[Redacted] opened up with a big disappointment: a loss to Stetson. Later, during the OOC schedule, [Redacted] pulled off a dubious success with a narrow victory over a very suspect Iowa team. Midway through the season [Redacted] tasted real catastrophe as he lost his first 5 ACC games by an average of 24.75 points (this included a 74-39 loss at GT. Ouch.) After this he enjoyed a real success with his first ACC win, beating UVA. Alas, this success was followed with more defeats: a 91-70 loss to UMD, an 80-54 loss to GT, and just the general total suckitude of losing the final 11 games by an average of 17 ppg. The promises of reforming the offensive philosophy to something more open and efficient as well as improving Wake's basketball culture have gone unfulfilled. Now, Coach [Redacted] moves into his second year with dwindling fan support, continued discipline issues, and having few viable options to solve his problems due to his inability to recruit new talent early on. But he's got one thing going for him. The upcoming schedule looks about as weak as it could possibly be.


Sound about right? What did I miss?
 
Theoretically, the Republicans are supposed to be Obama's players.
 
Bz is at a disadvantage because Obama had the Obama girl to get him started on the way to fame and popularity, while Bz only had Ron and NazT.
 
Pretty good. Does that mean that bzzzzout=tea party?
 
Hilarious the extremes RWers will go. Obam HAS reached out to the GOP. The reason there is such rancor in DC in Dc is 98% on the GOP:

1. RE: Stimulus- Obama went to talk to GOP at the Capitol. What was the response? The bill is dead unless you give the GOP 100% of what they want. Obaam gives GOP 1/3 of bill in tax cuts. GOP response-no votes. Obama takes out the top dozen most onjectionable earmarks. GOP response-no votes.

2. RE: Healthcare- Obama pushes GOP plan fomr the 90s (mandate) over public option. GOP response-fuck you

3. GOP does not denounce racist birthers. In fact they elect more than half a dozen birthers.

4. Obama kills more to AQ leaders in his first 30 months than W did in seven years-GOP response-he doesn't know what he's doing.

5. Obama kils OBL -GOP so what....

6. House passes over 300 bills. (Over fifty of which have 350+ votes-some have 95+% of GOP support) all blocked by GOP obstructionism in Senate. In each of Congress' sessions under Obama McConnell sets records for denying votes on House passed bills.
 
Hilarious the extremes RWers will go. Obam HAS reached out to the GOP. The reason there is such rancor in DC in Dc is 98% on the GOP:

1. RE: Stimulus- Obama went to talk to GOP at the Capitol. What was the response? The bill is dead unless you give the GOP 100% of what they want. Obaam gives GOP 1/3 of bill in tax cuts. GOP response-no votes. Obama takes out the top dozen most onjectionable earmarks. GOP response-no votes.

2. RE: Healthcare- Obama pushes GOP plan fomr the 90s (mandate) over public option. GOP response-fuck you

3. GOP does not denounce racist birthers. In fact they elect more than half a dozen birthers.

4. Obama kills more to AQ leaders in his first 30 months than W did in seven years-GOP response-he doesn't know what he's doing.

5. Obama kils OBL -GOP so what....

6. House passes over 300 bills. (Over fifty of which have 350+ votes-some have 95+% of GOP support) all blocked by GOP obstructionism in Senate. In each of Congress' sessions under Obama McConnell sets records for denying votes on House passed bills.

Obama tries to reach out to the right in the ways you described but is met with stony opposition.

[Redacted] tries to reach out to the Wake community with open practices, a fan forum, and frequent appearances from the AD. But in reply he only gets sock jokes from Bzzouters.

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Here's a big difference...Obama earned his current position.

As a senator, he earned a name for himself. He ran a great campaign and was elected handily.

[Redacted] never built a resume worthy of his position and got appointed by an old buddy - in a decision that was wildly unpopular with the fanbase - after some shady back room dealings.
 
If Obama has hte equivalent of a #18 recruiting class after an historically bad year, he wins in a walk.
 
Well there were people crying when [Redacted] was hired, too.
 
If Obama has hte equivalent of a #18 recruiting class after an historically bad year, he wins in a walk.

Perhaps the Libyan campaign is the equivalent to a decent recruiting class. Both appear to be positives on the surface but no one can reasonably predict what the end result will be. Also many were initially critical of offering CMM and Rountree but now are mostly silent.
 
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Both could be described as risky ventures that look like good moves 6 months later but could still blow up in our faces down the road and not something we want to make a practice of doing.
 
Nothing would make me happier than to see both of them exceed beyond all expectations in the coming year. Whos with me?
 
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